[talk-au] Remote mapping of a fence
Hi, A remote mapper is adding a fence line to OSM. I believe the imagery detail is not sufficient to map this fence alone. See relation 10703889 (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10703889). I think the remote mapper is using the website https://www.ddmrb.org.au/ to establish where the fence is then using a very faint trace in imagery to state there is a fence here. Note https://www.ddmrb.org.au/copywrite/ - for private use only. Thoughts? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Remote mapping of a fence
I agree with your concern. Some imagery may permit an experienced eye to identify a fence line. However identification of a particular fence by name would need more than the satellite imagery. If the source of other info including name is copyrighted, then it's inclusion in OSM is not appropriate. On Thu, 13 Feb 2020, at 9:07 AM, Warin wrote: > Hi, > > > A remote mapper is adding a fence line to OSM. > > I believe the imagery detail is not sufficient to map this fence alone. > > > See relation 10703889 (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10703889). > > > I think the remote mapper is using the website https://www.ddmrb.org.au/ > to establish where the fence is then using a very faint trace in imagery > to state there is a fence here. > > Note https://www.ddmrb.org.au/copywrite/ - for private use only. > > > Thoughts? > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Remote mapping of a fence
Hi there Queensland Governments open data is quite extensive. I would discourage digitizing of this fence in favour of importing the actual data available from the Agriculture department Metadata (read more at: http://qldspatial.information.qld.gov.au/catalogue/custom/viewMetadataDetails.page?uuid=%7B5E9EC7FB-99EE-4B2A-A43D-81FA0E44578D%7D ) Mike -Original Message- From: Warin [mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2020 8:07 AM To: talk-au Subject: [talk-au] Remote mapping of a fence Hi, A remote mapper is adding a fence line to OSM. I believe the imagery detail is not sufficient to map this fence alone. See relation 10703889 (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10703889). I think the remote mapper is using the website https://www.ddmrb.org.au/ to establish where the fence is then using a very faint trace in imagery to state there is a fence here. Note https://www.ddmrb.org.au/copywrite/ - for private use only. Thoughts? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au Warning: This email (which includes all attachments and linked documents) is intended for and is confidential to the addressee; it may also be subject to copyright, legal professional privilege or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the addressee, or if you have received this email in error, you must not use, rely upon, disclose or reproduce it (or any part of it) in any way. Please notify the sender of your receipt of it and delete it in its entirety. The National Heavy Vehicle Regulator does not accept any liability for computer viruses, data corruption, delay, interference, interception, unauthorised access or amendment of this email. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Remote mapping of a fence
Warin, thanks for raising. I've asked the mapper to confirm their sources, I'll see what they say first. Mike, good point. As it stands due to reasons given at https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/ we need a waiver to use CC BY data in OSM. In Queensland as listed at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue we've got that waiver from TMR for state control roads surveyed centerline, Protected Areas of Queensland, Brisbane City Council, Noosa Shire Council and City of Townsville, but no other sources. If someone want's to use this data to improve OSM the first step is we'll need to approach Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for this CC BY waiver. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Remote mapping of a fence
Andrew et al, The mapper may have used an out of copyright map or document. Is the fence still in use or has myxo and Calicivirus made it redundant? On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 10:17, Andrew Harvey wrote: > Warin, thanks for raising. I've asked the mapper to confirm their sources, > I'll see what they say first. > > Mike, good point. As it stands due to reasons given at > https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/ we need a > waiver to use CC BY data in OSM. In Queensland as listed at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue we've got > that waiver from TMR for state control roads surveyed centerline, Protected > Areas of Queensland, Brisbane City Council, Noosa Shire Council and City of > Townsville, but no other sources. > > If someone want's to use this data to improve OSM the first step is we'll > need to approach Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for this CC BY > waiver. > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Warm Regards Ewen Hill Internet Development Australia ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
