Hey Russell,

At the node where the way changes traversibility, split the way into 2. Then 
tag each way with the appropriate tag.

Li.


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> Could I ask a newbie question on this topic?
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> I want to update some roads that are 4wd-only in certain sections.
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> Any "new approach" aside, what is the best way to do this -- a) what tag 
> do I use, and b) how do I handle the changing traversibility - separate 
> ways linked as a route, or... ?
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> Thanks in advance
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> Russell
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> From: David Bannon <dban...@internode.on.net>
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> Hi Russell, maybe you have followed the conversation ? If so, you will
> see that I think we do need a new approach but are unlikely to get it
> 'approved' ? Oh well, won't be the first fight I have lost !
> 
> So, the fall back is really as now doc'ed on the Australian Tagging
> Guidelines.
> 
> Use 4wd_only if its a 4x4 road, officially the only option is 'yes' but
> I recommend people also use 'recommended' in cases where its marginal.
> And 'extreme' for the really wild cases.
> 
> Note that your efforts will not appear distinctively on (eg) the main
> slippery map on the OSM website. I have opened a ticket with the map
> maintainers but no answer yet. Hmm...
> 
> All roads should have highway=[track, unclassified, tertiary, etc] and
> source=survey and surface=unpaved. I'd also consider using tracktype=
> but note that it will only be rendered differently if highway=track.
> And, to make it worse, the roughest (ie the most fun) track is
> officially grade5. As defined, that might be OK in England, pretty silly
> in Oz. If you use grade6, grade7 and grade8 the OSM maps will show the
> track as a grade3, thats potentially dangerous but really the correct
> thing to do. 
> 
> Sigh .....
> 
> The best way to handle changing conditions down the length of a road
> (IMHO) is to break the road up into ways that have similar
> characteristics and join them using merged nodes. That is, don't merge
> the ways into one way.
> 
> It does not make sense to have sections that cannot be accessed
> externally if you see what I mean ? Any discrete section should be
> labeled with the "worse case" bit.
> 
> Hope this helps. And I hope you had a great time collecting that data !
> 
> David
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> On Sun, 2012-12-16 at 17:50 +1100, Russell Edwards wrote:
>> Could I ask a newbie question on this topic?
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>> I want to update some roads that are 4wd-only in certain sections.
>> 
>> Any "new approach" aside, what is the best way to do this -- a) what tag 
>> do I use, and b) how do I handle the changing traversibility - separate 
>> ways linked as a route, or... ?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> 
>> Russell
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