I would also like to input into this discussion.
From the point of view of a user of one of the renditions of OSM maps I
can see the point that the huts be labelled as Alpine Huts.
In Western Australia we do not do Alpine but we do have huts. It would
be nice to have the huts on the Bibbulmun track marked, currently they
seem to be marked as toilets at best.
Can we redefine Alpine to mean any remote hut?
Warren
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Thanks Warin for the reply.
wilderness_hut should not cause map clutter because they should only
be tagged in wilderness areas which by definition are largely empty of
man made features
but I accept that getting their zoom level changed may be difficult
so continue to tag as basic hut in NSW and alpine hut in Victoria?
Tony
On 4/07/2015 6:24 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
Hi
I am new to editing.
I have noticed inconsistency in what are known in Australia as
Alpine or High Country or Mountain Cattlemen's huts.
In Victoria they are tagged tourism=alpine_hut (see Bogong High
Plains, Mt Sterling and Lake Mountain)
In the NSW they are tagged as shelter_type=basic_hut. (see the
Snowy Mountains, [except that you can't easily see them, eg Whites
River Hut, Schlink Hilton, Tin Hut])
I would consider retagging the Victorian huts to basic_hut or
wilderness_hut but there is a serious safety issue involved. I am
aware that I should not tag for Mapnik but downgrading the hut
status would be very risky for map users.
alpine_hut displays in Mapnik at zoom 13 but basic_hut displays at
zoom 16. It is practically impossible to find a basic_hut with
scroll and zoom, even if you know roughly where it is. I guess this
is why Victorian huts are tagged alpine_hut.
These huts are the single most important feature in Australian alpine areas.
Ideally I would like to see basic_hut or wilderness_hut displaying
at zoom 13, there is heaps of empty space, at least in Australian
maps round these huts, then I would like to see the Victorian huts
retagged.
Your thoughts?
Unfortunately rendering 'rules' are world wide ...
Meaning if basic_hut or wilderness_hut displaying were displayed at
zoom 13 somewhere in the world there would be too much clutter for the
map to be usefull.
Personally I'd like to see these 'rules' being made fuzzy ... so in
places where little is shown things can be brought forward. Probably
best implemented the other way around, removing things untill the
number of things displayed per unit area is suitably small for reading,
but large enough for detail.
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