Re: [talk-au] Time to grow up...

2008-12-13 Thread Stephen Hope
The funny thing is, I've used JOSM since I started.  I'm too scared to
touch Potlatch - I like to be able to review my work before I save it.

Stephen

2008/12/13 Matt White :
>
> Basically, I've been potlatching to my hearts content for the last 18
> months, and it's served me well. But the time has come to learn how to
> use JOSM... I'm a big boy now, and this will be like the move from
> writing in pencil to getting my pen "license" when I was in grade 2...
>

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Re: [talk-au] Time to grow up...

2008-12-13 Thread Roy Rankin
The error message which is significant is the overlapping ways message 
for the runway. I have seen this on occasion, but do not know why it 
happens. Note that there are arrows on both ends of the runway and if 
you select the overlapping ways error, only one set of nodes appear.

There are two ways between the same two nodes.

To fix this add a node near the centre of the way and then shift this 
node and you should get a triangle.  Select the node you created. While 
holding shift, select one of the end nodes and then type p. Select the 
way between these two nodes and delete the way. Select your new node and 
delete it.

In regards to the overlapping areas, caused by common area boundaries I 
usually ignore them.(you can select each validation message and then 
click "ignore". Then you will not see the message again).  When better 
images become available it is much easier to adjust shared boundaries if 
they use the same nodes,.

Note that for city areas such as parks, I draw the boundaries inside the 
surrounding roads. After all there is usually a footpath between the 
park and the road.

Regards,
Roy Rankin

Darrin Smith wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:27:50 +1100
> Matt White  wrote:
> 
>> Anyway, I've been playing around in JOSM, and I've made some changes, 
>> and uploaded them, but it was giving me warnings or something about 
>> overlapped areas. I couldn't see anything I'd screwed up too badly,
>> but was wondering if anyone with more JOSM experience than myself (so
>> you'd need at least 43 mins of JOSM expererience to fulfull the
>> requirement), could cast a quick eye over what I just did, and make
>> sure I haven't cocked it up too bad.
> 
>>From what I can tell, the JOSM validation will say it has
> overlapping areas when 2 adjacent closed ways share a common
> consecutive pair of nodes (i.e. a common line). I get the impression
> it's a matter of personal opinion whether or not you leave it like that
> or separate it in to 2 adjacent parallel ways with separate points (or
> even every 2nd point common if you want to be tricky I guess ;)
> 
> 

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Re: [talk-au] Time to grow up...

2008-12-12 Thread Darrin Smith
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:27:50 +1100
Matt White  wrote:

> Anyway, I've been playing around in JOSM, and I've made some changes, 
> and uploaded them, but it was giving me warnings or something about 
> overlapped areas. I couldn't see anything I'd screwed up too badly,
> but was wondering if anyone with more JOSM experience than myself (so
> you'd need at least 43 mins of JOSM expererience to fulfull the
> requirement), could cast a quick eye over what I just did, and make
> sure I haven't cocked it up too bad.

>From what I can tell, the JOSM validation will say it has
overlapping areas when 2 adjacent closed ways share a common
consecutive pair of nodes (i.e. a common line). I get the impression
it's a matter of personal opinion whether or not you leave it like that
or separate it in to 2 adjacent parallel ways with separate points (or
even every 2nd point common if you want to be tricky I guess ;)


-- 

=b

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[talk-au] Time to grow up...

2008-12-12 Thread Matt White
I bet you thought I was about to wade into the roundabouts discussion...

Nope. Sorry.

Basically, I've been potlatching to my hearts content for the last 18 
months, and it's served me well. But the time has come to learn how to 
use JOSM... I'm a big boy now, and this will be like the move from 
writing in pencil to getting my pen "license" when I was in grade 2...

Anyway, I've been playing around in JOSM, and I've made some changes, 
and uploaded them, but it was giving me warnings or something about 
overlapped areas. I couldn't see anything I'd screwed up too badly, but 
was wondering if anyone with more JOSM experience than myself (so you'd 
need at least 43 mins of JOSM expererience to fulfull the requirement), 
could cast a quick eye over what I just did, and make sure I haven't 
cocked it up too bad.

I've added a bunch of beaches to Great Keppel Island, and tried to 
attach them to the costal boundaries correctly (the first potlatch 
attempt wasn't great).

Anyway, all the carnage is approximately here: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-23.1755&lon=150.9613&zoom=14&layers=B000FTF

Ta

Matt

(as a complete aside, and I don't know if he (or she) is on the AU 
mailing list, but there's a mapper in Brisbane who has been keeping me 
very much amused with his/her diary entries - awesm is the handle: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/awesm/diary


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