Re: [talk-au] Transponders mistagged

2011-04-22 Thread John Smith
On 22 April 2011 18:35, Gary Gallagher  wrote:
>I've been rereading the wiki entry. Is it proposing a structure in
> which each transponder is first created as a node labeled
> "man_made=communications_transponder" each with all their details. Than
> they are grouped as a relation with the
> "type=communication_tower_group". Presumably the group could also have
> height for the mast and other information?

The ACMA data listed the height for the antenna on the mast, the
relation links to the mast node as well as storing information about
the individual antenna in a relation.

If we were to store each antenna as a node it would most likely get
merged, as many of other nodes have been merged by others in the past.

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Re: [talk-au] Transponders mistagged

2011-04-22 Thread Gary Gallagher
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 13:43 +1000, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:31:22 +1000
> Gary Gallagher  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >I've been editing some areas of rural Victoria and I keep coming
> > across communications transponders that have been mis-tagged as
> > relations. in the .osm file the xml looks like this:-
> > 
> >> timestamp='2010-05-22T23:46:04Z' uid='74617' user='JohnSmith'
> > visible='true' version='2' changeset='4779256'>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  > v='http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD/pc=PC_9150' />
> >  > v='directional' />  > v='744.25' />  > v='PAL' />  > v='horizontal' />  > v='1000' /> 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > I'm not sure about some of the tags but from what I can figure out
> > from the transponder proposal at
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Communications_Transponder
> > the  should be  > v='communications_transponder' /> and the whole thing should be a
> > node and not a relation. I could perhaps write an xsl script to clean
> > up the individual .osm files I use but this mis-tag is all over the
> > state, and perhaps Australia. Is there someone who knows how to do a
> > more systemic clean up.
> > 
> > cheers
> >Gary
> 
> The logical reason for a relation is that there are numerous parts to
> the transponders at various heights and that there are several per
> aerial mast / comms hut
> Perhaps the wiki page needs a rewrite?
> 
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Hi,
I've been rereading the wiki entry. Is it proposing a structure in
which each transponder is first created as a node labeled
"man_made=communications_transponder" each with all their details. Than
they are grouped as a relation with the
"type=communication_tower_group". Presumably the group could also have
height for the mast and other information?

regards
Gary


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Re: [talk-au] Transponders mistagged

2011-04-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 April 2011 13:43, Elizabeth Dodd  wrote:
> The logical reason for a relation is that there are numerous parts to
> the transponders at various heights and that there are several per
> aerial mast / comms hut
> Perhaps the wiki page needs a rewrite?

I thought the wiki page was added to about the time that data was
added, but Elizabeth is correct about multiple transponders per
location.

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Re: [talk-au] Transponders mistagged

2011-04-21 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:31:22 +1000
Gary Gallagher  wrote:

> Hi,
>I've been editing some areas of rural Victoria and I keep coming
> across communications transponders that have been mis-tagged as
> relations. in the .osm file the xml looks like this:-
> 
>timestamp='2010-05-22T23:46:04Z' uid='74617' user='JohnSmith'
> visible='true' version='2' changeset='4779256'>
> 
> 
> 
>  v='http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD/pc=PC_9150' />
>  v='directional' />  v='744.25' />  v='PAL' />  v='horizontal' />  v='1000' /> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> I'm not sure about some of the tags but from what I can figure out
> from the transponder proposal at
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Communications_Transponder
> the  should be  v='communications_transponder' /> and the whole thing should be a
> node and not a relation. I could perhaps write an xsl script to clean
> up the individual .osm files I use but this mis-tag is all over the
> state, and perhaps Australia. Is there someone who knows how to do a
> more systemic clean up.
> 
> cheers
>Gary

The logical reason for a relation is that there are numerous parts to
the transponders at various heights and that there are several per
aerial mast / comms hut
Perhaps the wiki page needs a rewrite?

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[talk-au] Transponders mistagged

2011-04-21 Thread Gary Gallagher
Hi,
   I've been editing some areas of rural Victoria and I keep coming
across communications transponders that have been mis-tagged as
relations. in the .osm file the xml looks like this:-

  












  

I'm not sure about some of the tags but from what I can figure out from
the transponder proposal at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Communications_Transponder 
the  should be  and the whole thing should be a node and not 
a relation. I could perhaps write an xsl script to clean up the individual .osm 
files I use but this mis-tag is all over the state, and perhaps Australia. Is 
there someone who knows how to do a more systemic clean up.

cheers
   Gary
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