Re: [talk-au] relations
Thanks, fellas, I had worried that splitting ways would cause trouble with route finding etc as one street would become 2 adjoining streets with the same name. Regards, adrian From: talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Talk-au Digest, Vol 61, Issue 34 To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:00:07 +0100 Send Talk-au mailing list submissions to talk-au@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Talk-au digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Question about relations (SomeoneElse) 2. Re: Redaction recovery (Leon Kernan) 3. Re: Question about relations (John Henderson) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:38:47 +0100 From: SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Question about relations Message-ID: 500f9477.6050...@mail.atownsend.org.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Adrian Plaskitt wrote: My specific question is, when the route passes down only part of a way, say just a few blocks of a longer street, how do you assign the relation to just a few internodes. Is it necessary to split the ways at the nodes and then just assign the relation to the segments between, or is it necessary to create a new way over the top which is just the walking route, or is there some method that is simpler that I have failed to appreciate. I'd split the way, like this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/141369518 Here the end of Mandalay Beach Road has been split and the part of the road that belongs to the walking route has been added to the walking route relation ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/400098 in this case). The result looks like this on a map designed to show long distance hiking routes: http://hiking.lonvia.de/en/?zoom=17lat=-35.00144lon=116.53484 Cheers, Andy -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:35:34 +1000 From: Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Redaction recovery Message-ID: 18353cab-6f82-4d09-a7f4-5031dfbc3...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Don't worry too much about the Hume, it's almost fixed as far as i can tell. I think I fixed the last issue affecting routing between Melbourne and Sydney tonight. (hopefully) South west sydney is full of broken roads. I'm not too familiar with central Sydney but if a local could take a look, i'm not game to get too far into that mess. If you need a change, Adelaide is also a huge mess. On 24/07/2012, at 8:34 PM, Michael Hampson wrote: Hi Brian, Good have you on board Brian. Take a look at the Hume Hwy and M5 motorway if you get a chance. Both head south west out of Sydney. Regards, Michael On 24/07/2012 8:23 PM, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi All I can give assistance retracing roads from bing concentrating on motorways and primary roads - I've made a start in South Sydney. Let me know if there's anywhere more urgent. I map mostly in Birmingham UK wher we're now pretty complete and are mostly tracing buildings from bing and addressing which is slow tedious work - so this provides a bit of welcome relief. It also reminds me of my visit to Oz 4 years ago - might even revisit some favourite places virtually! Regards Brian ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/attachments/20120724/5b340688/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:16:01 +1000 From: John Henderson snow...@gmx.com To: Adrian Plaskitt adrianplask...@hotmail.com Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Question about relations Message-ID: 500f8f21.2090...@gmx.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 25/07/12 16:07, Adrian Plaskitt wrote: Greetings all. I usually confine my mapping to bush tracks and cycle paths as this is what I am most interested in and is often not available from other sources. With the recent devastation of the base map I am remapping some of my
Re: [talk-au] Relations, road names and numbers
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: The question is, should we move highway= onto the relation for all relations? There's probably a fix for Mapnik to save editing every relation we've done, so I've added a ticket to OSM. http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2599 Without having thought this through much, I think it would probably be a good thing if renderers distinguished as little as possible between properties on ways and properties on relations. Sometimes it seems like you need to tag both to cover all your bases, and that can create a mess. Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Relations, road names and numbers
On 04/01/2010, at 5:19 PM, Mark Pulley wrote: The question is, should we move highway= onto the relation for all relations? There's probably a fix for Mapnik to save editing every relation we've done, so I've added a ticket to OSM. http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2599 I wouldn't generally add highway=* to the relation for the simple reason that it has to work without it there - there are many routes which consist of various roads of different classifications, so you can't have a single value for the highway tag. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Relations, road names and numbers
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: ... I think it would probably be a good thing if renderers distinguished as little as possible between properties on ways and properties on relations. +1. Tagging the way should override the tag on the relation, where applicable (which should address James' concern). ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Relations, road names and numbers
2010/1/5 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: ... I think it would probably be a good thing if renderers distinguished as little as possible between properties on ways and properties on relations. +1. Tagging the way should override the tag on the relation, where applicable (which should address James' concern). This already does happen, you have to tag the ways of state/country borders with admin_level=4 etc or the state borders don't show up properly. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Relations
Hi Liz, OK - the JOSM relation editor is still a bit beta-ish so you have to type all the info. Here's an example No right turn from a-street to b-road key value --- : type restriction : type of relation name No Right Turn: a-street to b-road :just a label - may be shown on a map or a screen restriction no_right_turn : may also be no_u_turn no_left_turn etc created_by JOSM Role Occupied By - -- from a-street : click on a-street to poulate this to b-street: click on b-street to fill this in via1234567 (-35., 150.): click on ther intersecting node for this one. Therefore the ways called a-street and b-road and their intersecting node are the members of this restriction type relation. see -36.2078049, 150.1238405 tying two bits of a way together into one entity (Tee-Place) key value - typestreet name Tee Place created_by JOSM Role Occupied by - - Tee Place (4 nodes) : click on first bit of Tee Place Tee Place (7 nodes) : click on second bit of Tee Place Therefore the two Tee Places are linked together by a relation to form Tee Place. I don't know how this goes down with a search algorythm - which one of the three does it find first? They seen to work (using gosmore routing engine). Cheers Nick ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Relations
Sorry 'bout the formatting (looked ok on my screen). It doesnt make much sense now - damm. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Relations
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Nick Hocking wrote: Sorry 'bout the formatting (looked ok on my screen). It doesnt make much sense now - damm. I'll try anyway. there's a No Left Turn in the metropolis of Binalong - important for routing because it keeps traffic on the main road. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
