Re: [talk-au] traffic_calming=choker and table

[Sebastian S.]

Hallo, 
I saw that you update the wiki with the link.
Before I sign up to that website to download that pdf... Are there images that 
show this?
I read the text but am lacking the imagination...

Are other traffic_calming options mentioned and missing in the wiki?

On 4 February 2020 4:20:16 pm AEDT, Alex Sims  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I obviously hang around with the wrong type of people, council people,
>traffic engineers, community groups etc. It’s a commonly used term,
>particularly in Local Government. To quote Austroads guide to Local
>Area Traffic Management,
>https://austroads.com.au/publications/traffic-management/agtm08/selection-of-latm-devices/horizontal-deflection-devices/driveway-links
>(free but registration required)
>
>“Description of driveway links
>
>Driveway links take the form of a single‑lane two-way meandering road
>extending over the length of two or more property frontages. They are
>an extended form of a slow point that generally provides a greater
>visual and physical impact on the street and the amount of traffic
>using it. Passing points may be required along the link if it is either
>very long or it is curved such that approaching drivers cannot see to
>the far end. Driveway links are particularly effective in reducing
>through traffic. Consideration needs to be given to maintaining
>drainage paths and providing bypasses for bicycles where possible”.
>
>A chicane is something you’ll find on a racetrack, best not to get them
>confused.
>
>Alex
>
>
>From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>
>Date: Tuesday, 4 February 2020 at 1:34 pm
>To: "talk-au@openstreetmap.org" 
>Subject: Re: [talk-au] traffic_calming=choker and table
>
>On 4/2/20 8:23 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>Yep, choked_table sounds good.
>
>From that wiki page, though, I notice that a chicane is "Called a
>driveway link in Australia"? Maybe so, but for 40+ years of driving in
>Australia, I've only ever known them as chicanes!
>
>
>
>Who calls a chicane a "driveway link'??? Not I.
>
>
>
>Arr Alex Sims in South Australia added it .. message sent.
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Re: [talk-au] traffic_calming=choker and table

[Alex Sims]

Hi,

I obviously hang around with the wrong type of people, council people, traffic 
engineers, community groups etc. It’s a commonly used term, particularly in 
Local Government. To quote Austroads guide to Local Area Traffic Management, 
https://austroads.com.au/publications/traffic-management/agtm08/selection-of-latm-devices/horizontal-deflection-devices/driveway-links
 (free but registration required)

“Description of driveway links

Driveway links take the form of a single‑lane two-way meandering road extending 
over the length of two or more property frontages. They are an extended form of 
a slow point that generally provides a greater visual and physical impact on 
the street and the amount of traffic using it. Passing points may be required 
along the link if it is either very long or it is curved such that approaching 
drivers cannot see to the far end. Driveway links are particularly effective in 
reducing through traffic. Consideration needs to be given to maintaining 
drainage paths and providing bypasses for bicycles where possible”.

A chicane is something you’ll find on a racetrack, best not to get them 
confused.

Alex


From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, 4 February 2020 at 1:34 pm
To: "talk-au@openstreetmap.org" 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] traffic_calming=choker and table

On 4/2/20 8:23 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
Yep, choked_table sounds good.

From that wiki page, though, I notice that a chicane is "Called a driveway link 
in Australia"? Maybe so, but for 40+ years of driving in Australia, I've only 
ever known them as chicanes!



Who calls a chicane a "driveway link'??? Not I.



Arr Alex Sims in South Australia added it .. message sent.






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Re: [talk-au] traffic_calming=choker and table

[Warin]

On 4/2/20 8:23 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

Yep, choked_table sounds good.

From that wiki page, though, I notice that a chicane is "Called a 
/driveway link/ in Australia"? Maybe so, but for 40+ years of driving 
in Australia, I've only ever known them as chicanes!



Who calls a chicane a "driveway link'??? Not I.


Arr Alex Sims in South Australia added it .. message sent.





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Re: [talk-au] traffic_calming=choker and table

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Yep, choked_table sounds good.

>From that wiki page, though, I notice that a chicane is "Called a *driveway
link* in Australia"? Maybe so, but for 40+ years of driving in Australia,
I've only ever known them as chicanes!

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [talk-au] traffic_calming=choker and table

[Andrew Harvey]

You could use "traffic_calming=choker;table", but
"traffic_calming=chocked_table" sounds good too. With the latter it
wouldn't hurt to create a new section on talk
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:traffic_calming, hopefully it
will catch on.

On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 22:37, Sebastian Spiess  wrote:

> I've come across a few by now but not sure how to tag them.
>
> It is a table with a choker - example:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=21/-33.75158/151.25648
>
> There are at least 5 of them in the vicinity of the example. Can we create
> new tags?
>
> traffic_calming=choked_table ?
>
> While the wiki notes some aussie special - choked_island
> .
> This is not mentioned in the wiki
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming
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[talk-au] traffic_calming=choker and table

[Sebastian Spiess]

I've come across a few by now but not sure how to tag them.

It is a table with a choker - example:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=21/-33.75158/151.25648

There are at least 5 of them in the vicinity of the example. Can we
create new tags?

traffic_calming=choked_table ?

While the wiki notes some aussie special - choked_island
.
This is not mentioned in the wiki
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming

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