Re: [talk-au] Question re footway or path for asphalt paths in National Parks

2010-10-19 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 18 October 2010 20:52, Mark Pulley  wrote:

> On the wiki, it suggests using highway=footway for urban footpaths and
> highway=path for hiking trails.
>
> Which is best to use for asphalt footways in national parks (e.g.
> wheelchair-friendly paths to lookouts) - should I use footway or path?
>

My recollection of this is that highway=footway, highway=cycleway, and
highway=bridleway have existed for far longer than the highway=path.

I think some sections of the community were having difficulty knowing what
was the difference between, say:
highway=footway
bicycle=designated
horse=permissive

and

highway=cycleway
foot=yes
horse=permissive

and

highway=bridleway
foot=yes
bicycle=designated

So, the idea was to just have highway=path, and then specify the use
explicitly, so for a path designated as a cycleway, usable by pedestrians
and horse use permitted, you might have..

highway=path
bicycle=designated
foot=yes
horse=permissive

My understanding is that there is no effective difference between

highway=footway
surface=paved

and

highway=path
foot=yes
surface=paved

despite what the wiki says.

Away from tagging for a second, personally, I'd be quite reticent to mark an
asphalt national park track as wheelchair accessible, as not many of them
maintained to a point of being independently accessible.  Where is the path
you are considering tagging?

Ian.
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Re: [talk-au] Question re footway or path for asphalt paths in National Parks

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Pulley

On 18/10/2010, at 10:57 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Mark Pulley   
wrote:
On the wiki, it suggests using highway=footway for urban footpaths  
and

highway=path for hiking trails.


Where does it suggest that, about highway=path?


http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Bush_Walking_and_Cycling_Tracks


Which is best to use for asphalt footways in national parks (e.g.
wheelchair-friendly paths to lookouts) - should I use footway or  
path?


highway=footway;surface=paved


I'll probably use

highway=footway;surface=asphalt;wheelchair=yes

for these paths (unless anyone objects!).

Mark P.

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Re: [talk-au] Question re footway or path for asphalt paths in National Parks

2010-10-18 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Mark Pulley  wrote:
> On the wiki, it suggests using highway=footway for urban footpaths and
> highway=path for hiking trails.

Where does it suggest that, about highway=path? It must be the most
ambiguous tag ever, with at least the following meanings:
- a trail of some kind that is not specified
- no different from footway or cycleway, depending on access tags (ie,
mapnik renders highway=path;foot=designated exactly the same as
highway=footway)
- a hiking path??

> Which is best to use for asphalt footways in national parks (e.g.
> wheelchair-friendly paths to lookouts) - should I use footway or path?

highway=footway;surface=paved

(Plus whatever wheelchair specific tags there are - I don't know.)

Steve

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