Re: [talk-au] Twitter like emails
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > > "Suitable channels"? > suitable for what? I think those complaining about list activity need to be more specific about what is and what isn't "acceptable". You can't just ask people to stop being "twitter-like". Personally, I think staying on topic is good enough - it's easy to skip a thread based on the email subject if it is not of interest to you. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Twitter like emails
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Hugh Barnes wrote: > I'm sorry, you've got the onus for change on completely the wrong side. > The "tweeters" are the offending parties in this case, and also in the > minority. They should adapt their behaviour to those of us who follow > standard behavioural norms and who consider others, instead of the > other way around. > > There are more suitable channels, as Jeff pointed out, or start your > own list. "offenders??" this list is described on the page which lists the osm mailing lists as "place for Aussie mappers to chat" I don't use twitter or any social networking sites, and don't care for any opinion that my behaviour may be like being on one of those. "Suitable channels"? suitable for what? I appreciate that list traffic is increasing, but that is the nature of life, and I increase the list traffic by inviting as many Aussie mappers as I can onto this list. -- Harp not on that string. -- William Shakespeare, "Henry VI" ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Twitter like emails
2009/10/7 Hugh Barnes : > On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:24:26 +1000 > John Smith wrote: > >> 2009/10/6 Liz : >> > On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Jeff Price wrote: >> >> G'day all, >> >> >> >> Any chance folks could take some conversations offline, or batch >> >> up their 15 emails into a single email? I presume I'm not the >> >> only one who has pretty well stopped paying any real attention to >> >> the talk-au list because its carrying on like a Twitter feed. >> >> >> >> Jeff. >> > if you get the list emailed as a digest ( an option you can set at >> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ) you have that >> > easily. >> > > This makes it difficult to take part in conversations in a thread-safe > way. > >> Alternatively emails can be either sent to a new mail account just for >> mailing list(s) emails or filtered differently from personal emails. >> > > I'm sorry, you've got the onus for change on completely the wrong side. > The "tweeters" are the offending parties in this case, and also in the > minority. They should adapt their behaviour to those of us who follow > standard behavioural norms and who consider others, instead of the > other way around. > > There are more suitable channels, as Jeff pointed out, or start your > own list. > > The serious effect of this chatter, whether I digest or not, is that I > miss a lot of important stuff because it's buried in the noise, which I > tend to skim. Please think it through with other people and the > net(work) effect in mind. > > Wiki vote, perhaps? This seems very subjective as to what an appropriate amount of emails is and and could possibly kill all conversation on this list, since people that do wish to subscribe to such emails will just shift to say talk-au-high-volume mailing list and this list will drop to almost nothing as a result. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Twitter like emails
gmail threads messages by topic by default which reduces clutter and
takes a lot of the pain out of cleanup :)
jim
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Hugh Barnes wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:24:26 +1000
> John Smith wrote:
>
>> 2009/10/6 Liz :
>> > On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Jeff Price wrote:
>> >> G'day all,
>> >>
>> >> Any chance folks could take some conversations offline, or batch
>> >> up their 15 emails into a single email? I presume I'm not the
>> >> only one who has pretty well stopped paying any real attention to
>> >> the talk-au list because its carrying on like a Twitter feed.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff.
>> > if you get the list emailed as a digest ( an option you can set at
>> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ) you have that
>> > easily.
>>
>
> This makes it difficult to take part in conversations in a thread-safe
> way.
>
>> Alternatively emails can be either sent to a new mail account just for
>> mailing list(s) emails or filtered differently from personal emails.
>>
>
> I'm sorry, you've got the onus for change on completely the wrong side.
> The "tweeters" are the offending parties in this case, and also in the
> minority. They should adapt their behaviour to those of us who follow
> standard behavioural norms and who consider others, instead of the
> other way around.
>
> There are more suitable channels, as Jeff pointed out, or start your
> own list.
>
> The serious effect of this chatter, whether I digest or not, is that I
> miss a lot of important stuff because it's buried in the noise, which I
> tend to skim. Please think it through with other people and the
> net(work) effect in mind.
>
> Wiki vote, perhaps?
>
> Cheers, hopefully not for the last time.
>
> ___
> Talk-au mailing list
> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
>
--
_
Jim Croft ~ jim.cr...@gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~
http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft
... in pursuit of the meaning of leaf ...
... 'All is leaf' ('Alles ist Blatt') - Goethe
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Twitter like emails
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:24:26 +1000 John Smith wrote: > 2009/10/6 Liz : > > On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Jeff Price wrote: > >> G'day all, > >> > >> Any chance folks could take some conversations offline, or batch > >> up their 15 emails into a single email? I presume I'm not the > >> only one who has pretty well stopped paying any real attention to > >> the talk-au list because its carrying on like a Twitter feed. > >> > >> Jeff. > > if you get the list emailed as a digest ( an option you can set at > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ) you have that > > easily. > This makes it difficult to take part in conversations in a thread-safe way. > Alternatively emails can be either sent to a new mail account just for > mailing list(s) emails or filtered differently from personal emails. > I'm sorry, you've got the onus for change on completely the wrong side. The "tweeters" are the offending parties in this case, and also in the minority. They should adapt their behaviour to those of us who follow standard behavioural norms and who consider others, instead of the other way around. There are more suitable channels, as Jeff pointed out, or start your own list. The serious effect of this chatter, whether I digest or not, is that I miss a lot of important stuff because it's buried in the noise, which I tend to skim. Please think it through with other people and the net(work) effect in mind. Wiki vote, perhaps? Cheers, hopefully not for the last time. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Twitter like emails
2009/10/6 Liz : > On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Jeff Price wrote: >> G'day all, >> >> Any chance folks could take some conversations offline, or batch up their >> 15 emails into a single email? I presume I'm not the only one who has >> pretty well stopped paying any real attention to the talk-au list because >> its carrying on like a Twitter feed. >> >> Jeff. > if you get the list emailed as a digest ( an option you can set at > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ) you have that easily. Alternatively emails can be either sent to a new mail account just for mailing list(s) emails or filtered differently from personal emails. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Twitter like emails
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Jeff Price wrote: > G'day all, > > Any chance folks could take some conversations offline, or batch up their > 15 emails into a single email? I presume I'm not the only one who has > pretty well stopped paying any real attention to the talk-au list because > its carrying on like a Twitter feed. > > Jeff. if you get the list emailed as a digest ( an option you can set at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ) you have that easily. Liz ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
