Re: [OSM-talk-be] Firefighters and OSM + fire_hydrant

[Kurt Roeckx]

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:13:53AM +0200, Teddy wrote:
> Bonjour,
> 
> The numbers are meabe for the position of the Hydrant (under the sidewalk)
> from the signpost.
> On the official fire signaling panels (for Hydrants) see :
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B72s2PiIFkrZNVBFOVRTYmRURlE/edit?usp=sharing
> 
> You have 3 numbers :
> at left : the distance between the base of the signpost at left and the
> Hydrant
> in the middle : the distance between the base of the signpost (in
> front) and the Hydrant   ex:1.2m
> at right : the distance between the base of the signpost at right and the
> Hydrant ex:0.8m
> (if the number is negative the position of the Hydrant is behind the
> signpost)
> 
> For this tag :
> *"fire_hydrant:position = sidewalk;0.0;1.2;0.0"*
> left : 0m
> front : 1,2m
> right : 0m

That sign should indicate where the hydrant really is, so it's
easier to locate.  I see no point in mapping where the sign is
and we should just map where the hydrant is instead.

For a proper meaning of the sign, in Dutch, see:
http://blog.seniorennet.be/westendseblik/archief.php?catID=1637

In short:
It has 2 numbers, indicating an x and y offset in meters
There is a letter, B for below ground, H for above ground
The B or H might be followed by a number indicting the
diameter



Kurt


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Firefighters and OSM + fire_hydrant

[Teddy]

Bonjour,

The numbers are meabe for the position of the Hydrant (under the sidewalk)
from the signpost.
On the official fire signaling panels (for Hydrants) see :
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B72s2PiIFkrZNVBFOVRTYmRURlE/edit?usp=sharing

You have 3 numbers :
at left : the distance between the base of the signpost at left and the
Hydrant
in the middle : the distance between the base of the signpost (in
front) and the Hydrant   ex:1.2m
at right : the distance between the base of the signpost at right and the
Hydrant ex:0.8m
(if the number is negative the position of the Hydrant is behind the
signpost)

For this tag :
*"fire_hydrant:position = sidewalk;0.0;1.2;0.0"*
left : 0m
front : 1,2m
right : 0m

I think it is a good suggestion.

Kind regards.
*__Eddy__*


2013/7/16 Julien Fastré 

>  @Marc: Thanks for this information, Marc.
>
> @Glenn: What does this mean :
>
>
>- fire_hydrant:position = sidewalk;0.0;1.2;0.0
>- fire_hydrant:standard = DIN
>
>  I understand fire_hydrant:position:sidewalk, but not the numbers after.
> Are they the position from the sidewalk's edge ?
>
> Do you have a list of fire_hydrant:standard ?
>
> In the wiki, the page key:fire_hydrant:position redirect to
> key:fire_hydrant.
>
> Julien
>
> Le 15/07/13 21:36, Marc Gemis a écrit :
>
> In Friesland, Germany, they recently did an import of fire hydrants:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16872978
>
>  regards
>
>  m
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Glenn Plas  wrote:
>
>>  On 07/15/2013 08:37 PM, Julien Fastré wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Glenn ! I will speak to them about your dataset
>> request/suggestion.
>>
>> Julien
>>
>>  Hi Julien,
>>
>> No problem, you could refer the mappers involved to npde
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2155389836 as an example.
>>
>> this node already seen a revision as well, so there are more contributers
>> which is very good.  See wiki as well :
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dfire_hydrant and
>> beyond.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Glenn
>>
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