Re: [OSM-talk-be] WMS for OSM using EPSG:31370 (Lambert 72)

2013-11-12 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Hi Kurt,

Yes there are always better technical solutions. The idea is to make is
easy as possible for data consumers to use our maps, preferably as easy as
other competing sources.

Having this already setup supporting the correct projection(s) would be a
good thing not just for QGIS but other applications are more demanding. In
my specific example OpenLayers is used and it is impossible (or hard) to
combine layers with different projections.

No idea why they stay with the old system, probably because it would
require rewriting some things switching now.

Regards,

Ben
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] WMS for OSM using EPSG:31370 (Lambert 72)

2013-11-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
So my first question is going to be why do you think you need WMS
with 31370?  There might be alternative solutions to the problem
you're trying to solve.

For instance qgis can work with layers from many different
sources, including vector and raster files, WMS, and postgis.
Using it with postgis can be very handy as you can just hide the
information you don't want.  Maybe their software doesn't support
postgis, but WMS probably isn't the only solution.  And I find
bitmaps annoying when you start to have several layers and they're
not transparent.

Assuming you do need to use WMS:
- Can they provide the WMS server themself, or is this something
  you need to provide?  There are various WMS servers available
  including about 5 open source WMS servers, including things like
  qgis.
- You probably need to create maps in Lambert 72.  I don't think
  that part should be that hard.


PS: Any idea why they stay with Lambert 72 and don't move to 2008?


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:09:27PM +0100, Ben Abelshausen wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Anyone here on the list who has experience setting up a WMS service using
> OpenStreetMap tiles in another projection than the default web mercator?
> 
> I need a WMS that can handle EPSG:31370.
> 
> I could use to this convince some people at AGIV to use OSM as a layer in
> some of their applications. This would mean a big extra audience looking at
> our maps and all doing something with mapping or GIS. (Potential new
> contributors? :-) )
> 
> I have already been looking at this:
> 
> https://github.com/mapnik/OGCServer
> 
> Anyone any experience in this field? Anyone know an existing service?
> Anyone willing to give it a try to set this up? :-)
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Best regards,
> 
> Ben Abelshausen

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] WMS for OSM using EPSG:31370 (Lambert 72)

2013-11-12 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Oh just regular tiles would be enough for now.

Different features will be even better in the future... would be very nice
if such a service existed for Belgium! :-)
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] WMS for OSM using EPSG:31370 (Lambert 72)

2013-11-12 Thread Julien Fastré

Ben,

Do you think you need a WMS service with layers of OSM features in 
EPSG:31370 or a tile server with features in EPSG:31370 ?


We might be interested with champs-libres.coop :-) We are going to think 
about that.


Julien

Le 12/11/13 12:09, Ben Abelshausen a écrit :

Hello,
Anyone here on the list who has experience setting up a WMS service 
using OpenStreetMap tiles in another projection than the default web 
mercator?

I need a WMS that can handle EPSG:31370.
I could use to this convince some people at AGIV to use OSM as a layer 
in some of their applications. This would mean a big extra audience 
looking at our maps and all doing something with mapping or GIS. 
(Potential new contributors? :-) )

I have already been looking at this:
https://github.com/mapnik/OGCServer
Anyone any experience in this field? Anyone know an existing service? 
Anyone willing to give it a try to set this up? :-)

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] WMS for OSM using EPSG:31370 (Lambert 72)

2013-11-12 Thread André Pirard
On 2013-11-12 12:09, Ben Abelshausen wrote :
> Hello,
>  
> Anyone here on the list who has experience setting up a WMS service
> using OpenStreetMap tiles in another projection than the default web
> mercator?
>  
> I need a WMS that can handle EPSG:31370.
I assume that you mean a program that can serve WMS and reproject
sources to EPSG:31370.
I mentioned several times Python Mapproxy  that I
used locally for exactly the opposite reprojection (using dreaded
Lambert only servers with JOSM). Easy for one who can edit a
configuration file; you'll find examples. Full of options.
It can build an OSM friendly cache, use several sources, use TMS sources
and serve them in WMS etc...
There is another Java Mapproxy configured with a Web interface but I
didn't try it.
But a client not being able to use EPSG:4326 should be mentioned in the
Guinness Book ;-)

Cheers,

André.


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Random Hacks of Kindness #5

2013-11-12 Thread Ben Abelshausen
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Jo  wrote:

> I was thinking about the DB structure and set up to make comparison
> between CRAB and OSM possible. (Which can of course be expanded to UrbIS
> and De Lijn)
>

It would be nice to be able to work on this there. I'm not sure if i'm able
to join but at least it's in a better location than last time. :-)

It is this you are talking about?

http://www.rhok.be/practical/

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen
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[OSM-talk-be] Random Hacks of Kindness #5

2013-11-12 Thread Jo
Hi,

Would people be interested to join this event? I can't seem to find a theme
to the event or many details, but I don't think Pieter or Maarten would
mind if we went there to hack on Openstreetmap related stuff.

I was thinking about the DB structure and set up to make comparison between
CRAB and OSM possible. (Which can of course be expanded to UrbIS and De
Lijn)

Participation is free and they usually provide meals. (And chairs and desks
and heated accomodation and internet access and parking space)

Jo
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[OSM-talk-be] WMS for OSM using EPSG:31370 (Lambert 72)

2013-11-12 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Hello,

Anyone here on the list who has experience setting up a WMS service using
OpenStreetMap tiles in another projection than the default web mercator?

I need a WMS that can handle EPSG:31370.

I could use to this convince some people at AGIV to use OSM as a layer in
some of their applications. This would mean a big extra audience looking at
our maps and all doing something with mapping or GIS. (Potential new
contributors? :-) )

I have already been looking at this:

https://github.com/mapnik/OGCServer

Anyone any experience in this field? Anyone know an existing service?
Anyone willing to give it a try to set this up? :-)
Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] (geen onderwerp)

2013-11-12 Thread Marc Coevoet

op 11-11-13 19:28, Guy Vanvuchelen schreef:

Ik sta op het punt om een nieuwe tablet te kopen. Maar ik geraak er maar
niet uit of die een ingebouwde GPS moet hebben of niet. Heeft het nut
i.v.m. het inbrengen van gegevens van OSM.   3G zie ik niet zitten.

Guy Vanvuchelen



Een goedkope telefoon met gps ?

70 euro..

http://www.electrodepot.fr/mobile-debloque-samsung-galaxyy-3-2m-blanc-msd2go.html


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] (geen onderwerp)

2013-11-12 Thread Marc Coevoet

op 11-11-13 19:28, Guy Vanvuchelen schreef:

Ik sta op het punt om een nieuwe tablet te kopen. Maar ik geraak er maar
niet uit of die een ingebouwde GPS moet hebben of niet. Heeft het nut
i.v.m. het inbrengen van gegevens van OSM.   3G zie ik niet zitten.

Guy Vanvuchelen



Tuurlijk is een gps interessant, kijk op openstreetmap naar de apps :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Android

Er zijn tabs op oa pearl.fr  pearl.de, die soms ook bvb de Carrefour of 
de Vandenborres hebben...



Zelf vond ik een takara 7" met gps en fmzender voor een slordige 70 
euros ;-)


Marc

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