Re: [OSM-talk-be] Disappeared JOSM preset Mapping in Benelux

[Marc Gemis]

The file on the server contained an error for awhile, when you downloaded
it during this period, it might have disabled itself. Remove the file from
your local cache.

On a mac the file is found in your homedirectory /.josm/cache , it's
named mirror_http___josm.openstreetmap.de_josmfile_page_Presets_BENELUX_zip_1

it's propably in a similar place for a PC. restart JOSM after deleting.
Hopefully this works.
I still have the preset in 6383

regard

m


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Erik Beerten  wrote:

> Hallo,
>
>
> With the JOSM update to 6383 (and 6388) the tagging preset Mapping in
> Benelux disappeared and I am missing that preset made by Marc. I can’t find
> it in the list of presets either.
> How to get it back?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Erik
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] WMS for OSM using EPSG:31370 (Lambert 72)

[André Pirard]

Hi,

Regarding this, I have updated my Mapproxy distribution
 for even greater simplicity.


On 2013-11-19 22:15, � wrote :
>
> Le 15/11/13 22:03, André Pirard a écrit :
>> On 2013-11-13 20:35, jul...@fastre.info wrote :
>>>
>>> As far as I understand, the main usage of tiles projeted in
>>> Lambert72 or Lambert 2008 is to be mixed with data from AGIV or
>>> Walloon Regio, which doesn't support 900913 (nor 3857) in their WMS
>>> services. We are developping an app today and this is a problem to
>>> mix information from Walloon Regio and OSM because the need of
>>> projectio.
>>>
>>> QGIS user doesn't need this, but they are advanced user. We target
>>> people who are not GIS user there.
>>>
>>> Right ?
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> How was Arlon, Julien?
>>
>> What I understood is that AGIV uses applications that can get data
>> only from EPSG:31370 WMS and hence not from OSM. And so that they
>> need TMS 4326 -> WMS 31370 conversion.
>>
>> After reading Ben's message, I added 14 characters to my local
>> Mapproxy configuration (4 if I copy & paste from Ben) and I had on my
>> PC exactly what AGIV need, tested later with JOSM.
>> And so, I recommended Mapproxy once again.
>> BTW, there are a good 20 references to Mapproxy on
>> wiki.openstreetmap.org and I just discovered
>> among them a page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapProxy
>> dedicated to Mapproxy which contains the installation procedure,
>> including the configuration that Ben needs.
>> Just in case somebody would read what I wrote, I added a DEB remark
>> for Ubuntu/Debian install.
>>
>> Anyway, I decided to stop speaking of Mapproxy repeatedly and to
>> write a Web page instead.
>> I hope to finish it tonight and it will contain a super simple
>> procedure with a guaranteed-to-work simple configuration for OSM (I
>> have doubts about the config in the OSM wiki page).
>>
>> I'll let you know, of course.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> André.
>>
>>
>>
> Hi,
>
> The "board" of Champs Libres (my society founded one month ago) had a
> meeting this afternoon and we decided that it was very important to
> give help to osm-be. So, we agree with setting up a server for tiles
> or WMS if you think this may be useful.
>
> As a I understand, the use case is "to be able to mix WMS layer from
> AGIV / Région Wallonne with openstreetmap". 
As I understand it, "WMS for OSM using EPSG:31370" means "reprojecting
OSM's TMS 4326 to WMS 31370" for handicapped applications that can only
use 31370.  Hey there, tell me if I'm right or wrong !!!
> This is not possible until :
>
> 1. AGIV / RW serve WMS layers with projection EPSG:3857 or 900913 ;
EPSG:4326 is the most important to serve (read AGIV below).

AFAIKS, the only SPW servers providing WMS are cartopro1 (ortho) and
cartopro2 (base map) in 31370.
I have explained that they should serve 4326 too (at least).
The other (new) servers do not use WMS but ArcGIS REST and 31370.
I have explained that they should serve WMS 4326 as well (at least).

I seem to have been misunderstood.
They seem to have removed cartopro2 instead.
So, except for BING like orthos, we have *NO WMS* and *NO 4326* at the SPW.

And what would be great is if you could reproject all their ArcGIS
layers to WMS 4326 at least.

AFAIKS, AGIV serves WMS:
CRS:84, EPSG:4326, EPSG:4258, EPSG:31370, EPSG:3812, EPSG:3043,
EPSG:32631 and EPSG:25831.
Generally, all non handicapped applications can use 4326 and I see that
JOSM, which is not supposed to reproject, can make 4326 requests when
its screen is configured as Mercator 3857.
That's because the sole difference is the simple vertical transformation
y = R ln tan (PI/4 + phi/2).
But, if needed, AGIV might agree to add EPSG:3857 and 900913 more easily
than SPW.
> 2. We have tiles in those projections ;
>
> So, we may reproject WMSs into 900913/3857 (1) or serve tiles (2).
Why tiles and why in those projections?
I have just explained that Mapproxy
 and others can transform
any TMS or WMS server in any projection to TMS or WMS in any projection.
Except that if a cache is used, TMS can only be served in the projection
of the cache.

Cheers,

André.


> For 1, this will force us to "capture" every WMS and serve it again. I
> am afraid that we might have a delay before inserting WMS. I wonder
> also about the legality of such use (I may ask RW for authorization).
>
> For 2, we know how OSM goes, and an advantage I see is that we might
> have other styles later, if we need it.
>
> What are other advantages of every answer to those question ?
>
> Julien
>
> NB: our server's provider have some problems those days... We will
> have to wait their new products to be available. This should be done
> within end of this year.
>
> @André & others :
>
> Arlon was great. I spoke about OSM as a community project, how we
> works, what we do, what are the value of the community, ...
>
>
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[OSM-talk-be] Disappeared JOSM preset Mapping in Benelux

[Erik Beerten]

Hallo,


With the JOSM update to 6383 (and 6388) the tagging preset Mapping in
Benelux disappeared and I am missing that preset made by Marc. I can’t find
it in the list of presets either.
How to get it back?


Regards,


Erik
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] osm.be

[Ben Abelshausen]

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Marc Ducobu  wrote:

> I can help you for the French translation.


Nice!

I created an account for you, should be in your inbox waiting.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] osm.be

[Marc Ducobu]

I can help you for the French translation.

Marc


On 19 November 2013 22:42, Gerard Vanderveken  wrote:

>  Looking good!
>
> The language selector doesn't work when not at home page.
> Replace
>
> NL / FR
> withNL / FR
>
> However additional script may be needed to stay on eg the blog and not to
> be redirected to home.
>
> Regards,
> Gerard.
>
> Ben Abelshausen wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>  We have been working on the osm.be website. We have been adding content
> and most of the work has been done by Jorieke V on this.
>
>  I setup a test-account for previewing the website. It is still offline
> until after some form of approval from this list and some translations.
>
>  go here:
> http://osm.be/user/login
>  and login with:
>  user:
> osm
> pass:
> osm
>
>  Now you should be able to access everything. We really need some
> translation help. All content can be translated.
>
>  If you want to help with this reply to this email with a username of your
> choice and I will given you access to help. I will also create a backup of
> what is there already this has been a couple of days work already adding
> the content alone.
>
>Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Best regards,
>
> Ben Abelshausen
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] FW: AGIV

[Marc Gemis]

I'm not using the cache and see the same behavior: it sometimes needs the
credentials.

m.


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Jo  wrote:

> Hi Glenn,
>
> Thanks for setting up the cache! I'm using it a lot. Every once in a while
> it wants credentials though. Maybe I'm using it a bit too much...
>
> When I remove the layer and put it back a few minutes later, it's all
> right again for a while.
>
>
> Jo
>
>
> 2013/4/9 Glenn Plas 
>
>>
>> On 04/09/2013 10:56 PM, Jo wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying it out, of course.
>>> It still seems to have the problem with the constant need of having to
>>> use 'change resolution'. It would be great if that could be solved as well
>>> somehow, but it may simply be a JOSM problem as well.
>>>
>>> Jo
>>>
>>>
>> I'm still trying to fix some stuff, it seems every request is generating
>> a cache MISS due to the fact WMS is by definition not to be cached.
>>  Cache-Control sent by AGIV server is 'private' which complicates things (I
>> have to get that header out and replace it with some expirations).
>>
>> I'm looking at MapProxy at this point, see https://pypi.python.org/pypi/
>> MapProxy , it can probably do what you ask.
>>
>> Glenn
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] FW: AGIV

[Jo]

Hi Glenn,

Thanks for setting up the cache! I'm using it a lot. Every once in a while
it wants credentials though. Maybe I'm using it a bit too much...

When I remove the layer and put it back a few minutes later, it's all right
again for a while.


Jo


2013/4/9 Glenn Plas 

>
> On 04/09/2013 10:56 PM, Jo wrote:
>
>> I'm trying it out, of course.
>> It still seems to have the problem with the constant need of having to
>> use 'change resolution'. It would be great if that could be solved as well
>> somehow, but it may simply be a JOSM problem as well.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>>
> I'm still trying to fix some stuff, it seems every request is generating a
> cache MISS due to the fact WMS is by definition not to be cached.
>  Cache-Control sent by AGIV server is 'private' which complicates things (I
> have to get that header out and replace it with some expirations).
>
> I'm looking at MapProxy at this point, see https://pypi.python.org/pypi/
> MapProxy , it can probably do what you ask.
>
> Glenn
>
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