[OSM-talk-be] Wiki: Wallonian hiking route symbols

[Stijn Rombauts]

Hi,
To get some more uniformity, I created a new and complete (I guess) set of 
symbols in svg-format for the Wiki for the Wallonian hiking routes: the red, 
blue, green en yellow rectangle, cross, stripes and diamond [1]. I used them 
already in some places in [2]. Perhaps I could replace all the other 'old' 
symbols on that page with the new ones if nobody objects. Perhaps the old 
symbols could even be deleted from the wiki, but I've got no idea how to do 
that or whether that's even possible. The colours should be exactly the same as 
described in [3] (p.82).

[1] 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListFiles&limit=20&ilsearch=belgium+walking&user=StijnRR[2]
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Walking_Routes
[3] http://balisage.tourismewallonie.be/assets/guide/gdb2014.pdf
Regards,
StijnRR
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[OSM-talk-be] 10 years mapping in Belgium.

[Marc Gemis]

Saw this on the Irish mailing list:

the blog
https://www.mapbox.com/blog/ten-years-openstreetmap/

Animated map of Belgium:

https://www.mapbox.com/ten-years-openstreetmap/#4.031982/50.894372/8

m.
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] follow up of meeting with press (La Libre)

[Julien Fastré]

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Thanks for the "evangelisation", Nicolas !


Le 03/03/15 07:26, Nicolas Pettiaux a écrit :

> 
> For such seminars, which will span beginners to advanced users, I
> will heavily rely on you, my dear fellows from OSM-be.

I am ready to give some help about that !

> 
> I told the journalists that I consider that if the data and the
> tools are free (as in speech and beer), most of the times, our
> times are NOT. And that they will have to find a way to compensate
> us and most probably pay the speakers for OSM (or our association
> for us to gather some funds).
> 
> Which Flemisch journalists / editors could we also contact ? Who
> is ready to help me in such an endeavor ?
> 
> We should start organizing in the wiki some info : who is capable
> of teaching what.
> 

Julien
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Osmose QA - problem detection with tags name, name:nl and name:fr

[Frédéric Rodrigo]

Thank. Probleme is now fxied.

Le 02/03/2015 14:04, Jo a écrit :

Itwould be weird to use Idalie - Idalie for those cases where nl and FR
agree.

On Mar 2, 2015 1:57 PM, "Jakka" mailto:vdmfrank...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Frédéric Rodrigo schreef op 1/03/2015 om 17:13:

English bellow.


Bonjour,

J'ai ajouté une analyse spécifique aux zones multilingues dans
Osmose.
Elle n'est pour l'instant active que sur le Maroc et pour la
région de
Bruxelles.

Pour Bruxelles l'analyse s'attend à retrouver les tags name,
name:fr et
name:nl avec "[name]" = "[name:fr] - [name:nl]" ou "[name]" =
"[name:fr]
- [name:nl]". Elle détecte des manques et des incohérences et
propose
des corrections.

Si vous relevé des problèmes produit par cette analyses
n'hésitez pas à
me les remonter.

Sur la carte :

http://osmose.openstreetmap.__fr/fr/map/#zoom=12&lat=35.__7667&lon=-5.8256&item=5060&__level=1%2C2%2C3




Et la liste des erreurs :

http://osmose.openstreetmap.__fr/fr/errors/?country=belgium___brussels_capital_region&item=__5060




--

Hi,

I added a specific analysis on multilingual areas on Osmose QA.
It is
currently only active on Morocco and for the Brussels region.

Brussels analysis attempts to retrieve the tags name, name:fr and
name:nl with "[name]" = "[name:fr] - [name:nl]" or "[name]" =
"[name:fr]
- [name:nl]". It detects missing and inconsistencies and show
possible
corrections.

If you see any problems with this analyzes do not hesitate to
let me know.

On the map:

http://osmose.openstreetmap.__fr/fr/map/#zoom=12&lat=35.__7667&lon=-5.8256&item=5060&__level=1%2C2%2C3




And the errors list:

http://osmose.openstreetmap.__fr/fr/errors/?country=belgium___brussels_capital_region&item=__5060








Ici a Brussel

http://osmose.openstreetmap.__fr/nl/map/#zoom=17&lat=50.__835862&lon=4.37511&layer=__Mapnik&overlays=__FFFT&item=__5060&level=2&tags=&fixable=



Example:

  Multilingual not matching
node 433342555 rawedit josm edit
name:nl = Idalie
name = Idalie
shelter = yes
name:fr = Idalie
route_ref = 34;38;80;95
operator = STIB/MIVB
highway = bus_stop



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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month

[Glenn Plas]

I would also want this, but in reality I heard that the translation is
the most work, I assume to English would be easy but my German is very
rusty (like non-existing rusty) , Not sure if we have the resources at
this moment.   Translations need time.

But idealistically it's perfect goal to strive for.   +1 on that.

Concerning the site, there are still some issues to be solved, last time
Ben and I spoke that was the consensus that somewhat more technical
people could jump in a fix a few things but not limited to technical stuff.

Maybe Ben can elaborate on the todo list ?  I would love to help, but
how do we get the ball rolling now ?

Glenn



On 03-03-15 09:45, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> Thanks Ben for the precise and long answer.
> 
> Could I have a login (name : npettiaux or npx) on osm.be to start
> helping and translating to French.
> 
> I think osm.be should be trilingual (en, nl, fr) if not 4 linguals
> (german in also a Belgian official language) and native speaker should
> translate to their mothe language. I'll help with French.
> 
> Thanks again, and keep on mapping,
> 
> Nicolas
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] follow up of meeting with press (La Libre)

[Nicolas Pettiaux]

Le mar 3 mar 2015 à 8:57, Glenn Plas  a écrit :
Concerning the VZW/ABL thing, I don't see what it will solve if there 
is

no issue.  If the French speaking community has an issue big enough to
warrant this, by all means: drop it to this list to get it solved,
otherwise you'll be isolating yourself.   Even small issues are 
welkom.

indeed


I would like a open community as this one to be above the language
barrier.

so do I.


  Let's leave that to the dumb people, the politicians.  Let
's focus on the map.

+1

Have a good day,

Nicolas
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month

[Nicolas Pettiaux]

Thanks Ben for the precise and long answer.

Could I have a login (name : npettiaux or npx) on osm.be to start 
helping and translating to French.


I think osm.be should be trilingual (en, nl, fr) if not 4 linguals 
(german in also a Belgian official language) and native speaker should 
translate to their mothe language. I'll help with French.


Thanks again, and keep on mapping,

Nicolas
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month

[Ben Abelshausen]

Hi,

I think this is the first idea that is really working and something that we
are actually continuously managing to do every month apart maybe from the
meetups we started.

Many thanks to Marc G, Marc D & Jorieke for making this happen. If it would
have been me alone this would never have worked.

As for the VZW/ASBL:

The structure we have now is more than enough to handle what we are doing.
We can do a LOT more and do things a LOT better but it's still just me. I
keep asking people for help and on this mapper-of-the-month thing this
worked out great but there are lots of initiatives that never get off the
ground because there is nobody to run things or nobody to help.

I'm talking about things that are not mapping here. I think we have proven
that mapping is something we can do and keep doing well. We also managed to
organize the CRAB-import and other mapping-related projects without the
need for any formal structure.

The email about west-vlaanderen and mapping parties for example needs a
different kind of volunteering and got almost no response. I'm not pointing
fingers here, there are no obligations whatsoever when contributing to
OpenStreetMap, we just need to realize that when there are no volunteers
for organizing stuff nothing will get organized. We are a community and we
have to do these things ourselves and together. This opportunity in WVL is
great and I think we should take it.

I think Marc, Marc and Jorieke have shown that with a couple of hours of
work a month a lot can happen. The only hope I have is that with meetups,
OpenBelgium, OSM.be and a mapping party here-and-there we can get more
people involved and we can grow in a better way.

What you can do:

- First of all, keep on mapping! :-)
- Organize a local meetup, there is a lot of potential in Brussels/Ghent!
- Organize a mapping-party (like Nicolas now).
- Ask me If you want to do something extra.
- Put your ideas on talk-be!

Real projects that could use some help:

- Helping Nicolas with the mapping party.
- Website improvements. (!)
- West-Vlaanderen community-contact-person. Still looking for someone
there...
- Communication, for example, weekly OSM and managing the
twitter-account/facebook group a bit better... ;-) Also a FR-speaking
volunteer would help a lot.
- Emailing to your province about the 'Atlas der Buurtwegen'. Will send
another message about this soon.

Happy Mapping!

Ben
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] follow up of meeting with press (La Libre)

[Marc Gemis]

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Nicolas Pettiaux 
wrote:

> eg introducing a tag http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3379643263 . By
> the way, is it correct / complete ?)
>

It seems correct, but not complete. What is this thing ? office=company,
shop=bakery, man_made=works, ... ?
Also, when the address is already on the building, it is not necessarily to
repeat it on the node. Although a lot of people do this for "stupid"
dataconsumers

regards

m
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