Re: [OSM-talk-be] Adressen

[Sander Deryckere]

As one IP can only execute one query at a time, and it takes a while before
Overpass decides to start a query (they are queued), it's not possible to
have one query per street (it would take very long to load the page).
That's why all streets of a village are combined into one request.

If someone is willing to experiment, it might be fixable by enlarging the
timeout too (see
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_QL#timeout ),
though it will probably ask a bit of trial-and-error to get a decent
timeout.

Regards,
Sander

2015-11-03 12:55 GMT+01:00 Glenn Plas :

> I forgot to add the reason:
>
> http://overpass-api.de/command_line.html
>
> "504 Gateway Timeout is sent if the server has already so much load that
> the request cannot be executed. In most cases, it is best to try again
> later. Please note that the server decides this based on the timeout and
> maxsize parameters of the request, so smaller values for them may also
> make the request acceptable."
>
> If you try it with 1 street (small request) instead of all the streets
> of a post code, it actually works for me now.  But any street wildcard
> request are to big it seems as they are executed in a single request.
>
> Glenn
>
>
> On 03-11-15 11:50, Glenn Plas wrote:
> > Hi Louis,
> >
> > I assume you are talking about the problem with street analysis,
> > Overpass API has been timing out since a few days when using Sander's
> > toolset:
> >
> > Remote Address:46.4.41.83:80
> > Request
> > URL:
> http://overpass-api.de/api/interpreter?data=%5Bout%3Ajson%5D%3Barea%5B%22boundary%22%3D%22postal_code%22%5D%5B%22postal_code%22%3D%222800%22%5D-%3E.area%3B(node%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22!~%22.%22%5D(area.area)%3Bway%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22!~%22.%22%5D(area.area)%3Brelation%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22!~%22.%22%5D(area.area)%3Bnode%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22%3D%222800%22%5D(area.area)%3Bway%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22%3D%222800%22%5D(area.area)%3Brelation%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%
>  2
> 4%
> >
> 22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22%3D%222800%22%5D(area.area)%3B)%3Bout%20center%3B
> > Request Method:GET
> > Status Code:504 Gateway Timeout
> >
> > It started on sunday evening, still not working.
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> >
> >
> > On 03-11-15 08:24, Louis van Boeckel wrote:
> >> wat is er mis met de  adressen inport , update niet meer?
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Adressen

[Glenn Plas]

I forgot to add the reason:

http://overpass-api.de/command_line.html

"504 Gateway Timeout is sent if the server has already so much load that
the request cannot be executed. In most cases, it is best to try again
later. Please note that the server decides this based on the timeout and
maxsize parameters of the request, so smaller values for them may also
make the request acceptable."

If you try it with 1 street (small request) instead of all the streets
of a post code, it actually works for me now.  But any street wildcard
request are to big it seems as they are executed in a single request.

Glenn


On 03-11-15 11:50, Glenn Plas wrote:
> Hi Louis,
> 
> I assume you are talking about the problem with street analysis,
> Overpass API has been timing out since a few days when using Sander's
> toolset:
> 
> Remote Address:46.4.41.83:80
> Request
> URL:http://overpass-api.de/api/interpreter?data=%5Bout%3Ajson%5D%3Barea%5B%22boundary%22%3D%22postal_code%22%5D%5B%22postal_code%22%3D%222800%22%5D-%3E.area%3B(node%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22!~%22.%22%5D(area.area)%3Bway%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22!~%22.%22%5D(area.area)%3Brelation%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22!~%22.%22%5D(area.area)%3Bnode%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22%3D%222800%22%5D(area.area)%3Bway%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22%3D%222800%22%5D(area.area)%3Brelation%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%
 2
4%
> 22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22%3D%222800%22%5D(area.area)%3B)%3Bout%20center%3B
> Request Method:GET
> Status Code:504 Gateway Timeout
> 
> It started on sunday evening, still not working.
> 
> Glenn
> 
> 
> 
> On 03-11-15 08:24, Louis van Boeckel wrote:
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Adressen

[Glenn Plas]

Hi Louis,

I assume you are talking about the problem with street analysis,
Overpass API has been timing out since a few days when using Sander's
toolset:

Remote Address:46.4.41.83:80
Request
URL:http://overpass-api.de/api/interpreter?data=%5Bout%3Ajson%5D%3Barea%5B%22boundary%22%3D%22postal_code%22%5D%5B%22postal_code%22%3D%222800%22%5D-%3E.area%3B(node%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22!~%22.%22%5D(area.area)%3Bway%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22!~%22.%22%5D(area.area)%3Brelation%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22!~%22.%22%5D(area.area)%3Bnode%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22%3D%222800%22%5D(area.area)%3Bway%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24%22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22%3D%222800%22%5D(area.area)%3Brelation%5B~%22%5Eaddr%3A(official_)%3Fhousenumber%24
 %
22~%22.*%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Astreet%22~%22%5EM.*%24%22%5D%5B%22addr%3Apostcode%22%3D%222800%22%5D(area.area)%3B)%3Bout%20center%3B
Request Method:GET
Status Code:504 Gateway Timeout

It started on sunday evening, still not working.

Glenn



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Re: [OSM-talk-be] kilometer palen

[Jo]

Het Brussels Gewest heeft al z'n geodata al vrijgegeven, zie UrbIS/CIRB.

MIVB nog steeds niet, spijtig genoeg. Voor Wallonië hebben we toch al de
data van TEC/SRWT ter beschikking.

Jo

Op 3 november 2015 09:20 schreef Ben Abelshausen 
:

> OK, die dataset van AWV ziet er ook wel nuttig uit... ik zal het eens
> navragen of ik die ergens kan vastkrijgen.
>
> Ik dacht trouwens al dat we zouden moeten wachten op het GRB.
>
> En zoals gewoonlijk: wat met Wallonië/Brussel?
>
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Best regards,
>
> Ben Abelshausen
>
> 2015-11-02 17:38 GMT+00:00 Sander Deryckere :
>
>> Er is deze:
>> http://www.geopunt.be/catalogus/datasetfolder/fa453d09-d577-4f5a-ad6c-04f938b757c4
>>
>> Maar helaas niet downloadbaar.
>>
>> Op 2 november 2015 18:24 schreef Ben Abelshausen <
>> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Weet er toevallig iemand hier waar ik een dataset kan vinden met de
>>> locaties van de kilometer palen?
>>>
>>> Is er een dataset van AGIV ergens die ik nog niet gezien heb?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] some osm.be statistics

[Ben Abelshausen]

What could also help: someone native french speaking to help with the
twitter account. Now we mostly tweet in NL and EN.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:27 AM, joost schouppe 
wrote:

> Hey Nicolas,
>
> I totally agree that building awereness is always good.
> But I'm not sure that "more people know and use OSM in Flanders". I would
> like to make some statistics of (active) contributors in the various parts
> of the country to see if that's true when it comes to contribution. Which
> is only part of the equation of course.
>
> An alternative explanation for different browsing numbers might be that
> the search terms people use to find the website work better in Dutch
> language Belgian Google than in the French language one. For example, just
> looking up "openstreetmap" in Dutch, gives as the first result the Holland
> website, but osm.be is already number five. It would be interesting to
> see where it shows up in your version.
> I have the impression that people mostly use very simple queries like this
> to find us; however almost 90% of search terms are unavailable in
> Analytics. (If I understand correctly, because of people switching to
> https).
>
> I think the takeway for everyone is that we are small and not as easy to
> find as we should be. And the best solution for that is building backlinks.
> So if you know of people who write about Openstreetmap in Belgium, kindly
> ask them to refer to us if that's apropriate.
>
>
> 2015-11-03 6:05 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Pettiaux :
>
>> Much thanks Joost for the analysis and the data.
>>
>> I understand it as the following ; more people know & use OSM in Flanders
>> than in Brussels & Wallonie, and we therefore have to work on developping
>> its awareness  .
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the Month

[joost schouppe]

I'm pretty sure by know the international community knows Belgium as "the
country that does these cool interviews".

2015-11-03 5:36 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis :

> Bedankt/thanks/merci/Danke
>
> m
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Ben Abelshausen  > wrote:
>
>> A huge thanks to all the volunteers who helped make this happen! ;-)
>>
>> Cheers for keeping this going! Each time I read the interview I learn
>> something new about OSM or related topics...!
>>
>> Met vriendelijke groeten,
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Ben Abelshausen
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Marc Gemis  wrote:
>>
>>> Hallo,
>>>
>>>  Jorieke has put the interviews with the mapper of the month on the
>>> osm.be website
>>>
>>> Dutch: http://osm.be/nl/content/mapper-van-de-maand-olivier-roussel
>>> French: http://osm.be/nl/node/39
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As a bonus, to celebrate 12 interviews aka a full year, an interview
>>> with a US-mapper
>>>
>>> http://osm.be/nl/content/mapper-spotlight-clifford-snow (only in
>>> English)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] some osm.be statistics

[joost schouppe]

Hey Nicolas,

I totally agree that building awereness is always good.
But I'm not sure that "more people know and use OSM in Flanders". I would
like to make some statistics of (active) contributors in the various parts
of the country to see if that's true when it comes to contribution. Which
is only part of the equation of course.

An alternative explanation for different browsing numbers might be that the
search terms people use to find the website work better in Dutch language
Belgian Google than in the French language one. For example, just looking
up "openstreetmap" in Dutch, gives as the first result the Holland website,
but osm.be is already number five. It would be interesting to see where it
shows up in your version.
I have the impression that people mostly use very simple queries like this
to find us; however almost 90% of search terms are unavailable in
Analytics. (If I understand correctly, because of people switching to
https).

I think the takeway for everyone is that we are small and not as easy to
find as we should be. And the best solution for that is building backlinks.
So if you know of people who write about Openstreetmap in Belgium, kindly
ask them to refer to us if that's apropriate.


2015-11-03 6:05 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Pettiaux :

> Much thanks Joost for the analysis and the data.
>
> I understand it as the following ; more people know & use OSM in Flanders
> than in Brussels & Wallonie, and we therefore have to work on developping
> its awareness  .
>
> Regards,
>
> Nicolas
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[OSM-talk-be] Adressen

[Louis van Boeckel]

wat is er mis met de  adressen inport , update niet meer?

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] kilometer palen

[Ben Abelshausen]

OK, die dataset van AWV ziet er ook wel nuttig uit... ik zal het eens
navragen of ik die ergens kan vastkrijgen.

Ik dacht trouwens al dat we zouden moeten wachten op het GRB.

En zoals gewoonlijk: wat met Wallonië/Brussel?

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen

2015-11-02 17:38 GMT+00:00 Sander Deryckere :

> Er is deze:
> http://www.geopunt.be/catalogus/datasetfolder/fa453d09-d577-4f5a-ad6c-04f938b757c4
>
> Maar helaas niet downloadbaar.
>
> Op 2 november 2015 18:24 schreef Ben Abelshausen <
> ben.abelshau...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Weet er toevallig iemand hier waar ik een dataset kan vinden met de
>> locaties van de kilometer palen?
>>
>> Is er een dataset van AGIV ergens die ik nog niet gezien heb?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] some osm.be statistics

[joost schouppe]

Hey Karel, ik heb geen statistieken over Duits omdat er geen Duitstalige
website is. Totale pageloads van Duitstalige browsers is 0,42%.

Op 3 november 2015 06:00 schreef Karel Adams :

> Jaja, maar ik zou het een vebetering vinden als de Duitse taal apart in de
> statistieken vermeld werd, het is tenslotte de derde landstaal.
> KA
>
>
> On 03-11-15 04:46, Marc Gemis wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Karel Adams  wrote:
>
>> Und für die Belgischen Deutschsprecher: la même chose? ;)
>
>
> De overeenkomst is dat iedereen hier mag schrijven in de taal die hij/zij
> wil: Nederlands, Frans, Duits, Engels. Niemand is verplicht in meerdere
> talen te schrijven. Uit beleefdheid wordt er wel gevraagd om bij voorkeur
> te antwoorden in de taal van de originele post, maar je mag natuurlijk ook
> antwoorden in je moedertaal als je die eerste taal niet machtig bent.
>
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