Re: [Talk-ca] UMap log in and import

2015-11-26 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Hi Courtney,

uMap login (via Twitter authentication) is working ok for me now.

Best,

Jean-Guilhem


Le 26/11/2015 05:43, Rieger, Courtney a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to sign up for a UMap account but I keep getting 'Bad
> Gateway'. I think there is a problem with the website... I was going
> to try to use the UMap program to create layers on top of a live
> OpenStreetMap basemap.
>
> CR
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] UMap log in and import

2015-11-26 Thread Eric Jiang
Hi Courtney,
The imports@ list probably will not be able to help you much, but I
think the umap list may be helpful:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/umap

If you email the umap@ list, also include which of the many umap sites
you are trying to use.

Cheers

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Rieger, Courtney  wrote:
> I'm trying to sign up for a UMap account but I keep getting 'Bad Gateway'. I
> think there is a problem with the website... I was going to try to use the
> UMap program to create layers on top of a live OpenStreetMap basemap.




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Re: [Talk-at] Treffen Linz AG - OSM Community

2015-11-26 Thread Michael Maier
On 11/20/2015 08:38 PM, Flaimo wrote:
> Hallo,
> 
> Termin ist jetzt fix:
> 
> 2015-12-02 von 18.00 - 20.00 Uhr

Hallo an die Linzer,

gibt's in der Nähe ein nettes Nichtraucherlokal, wo man sich nach 20:00
noch zu weiteren allgemeinen OSM-Diskussionen zusammensetzen kann?
Denn für 2h Treffen 7h Reisezeit ist jetzt nicht sooo ein gutes
Verhältnis ;-)

Hätte auch einer der Linzer eventuell eine Couch frei, damit ich am
nächsten Tag gemütlich mit dem Zug nach Graz zurückfahren kann?

Danke,
lg Michael

> Linz AG Zentrale, Besprechungsraum: A-105
> 
> Technisches Equipment wird vorhanden sein - seitens LINZ AG werden
> Mitarbeiter von den Linz Linien und vom Informationsmanagement  dabei sein.
> 
> An alle Interessierten: Bitte schreibt nochmals eine Bestätigungsmail an
> c.mal...@linzag.at, dass ihr kommt.
> 
> danke,
> flaimo
> 


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Re: [Talk-br] Olá.

2015-11-26 Thread Vitor George
Oi Alex, bem vindo a lista.

Os outros canais mais ativos além da lista são fórum, irc e telegram, no
wiki há mais detalhes:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Contact

Se tiver alguma dúvida ou quiser falar sobre o mapeamento da sua
localidade, fique a vontade.

Abraço,
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2015-11-23 23:47 GMT-02:00 ALEX RODRIGO DA ROSA :

> Não sei ainda como funciona, mas estou dizendo olá...
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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Vamos doar ao HOT?

2015-11-26 Thread Vitor George
Oi João,

Obrigado pelo apoio. Não temos contato ainda com organizações, talvez seja
o caso de tentar falar com a prefeitura de Mariana. Será que alguém
consegue fazer isso?

Sobre o esforço final, não há planos de fazer um evento específico, mas
divulgar novamente a iniciativa para atrair mapeadores. Gostaria que
houvesse uma mapatona, mas não consigo organizar algo desse porte agora. De
qualquer maneira, podemos divulgar a iniciativa na USP São Carlos.

Abraços,
Vitor



2015-11-25 20:58 GMT-02:00 Joao Porto :

> Vitor,
>
> Parabéns pela iniciativa, temos todo interesse em apoiar essa ativação.
> Você já contactou alguma organização interessada em usar os dados, por
> exemplo, a defesa civil ou ONGs locais?
>
> Por favor me diga quando estão pensando em fazer o esforço para terminar a
> tarefa do tasking manager, vou tentar incluir na agenda das minhas aulas
> aqui na USP São Carlos.
>
> Abraços,
> João Porto
>
> Em 25 de novembro de 2015 20:46, Vitor George 
> escreveu:
>
>> Pessoal,
>>
>> Acho que é o caso de fazer a tradução do que está no donate.hotosm.org
>> para divulgação. Traduzir o vídeo seria excelente.
>>
>> O que tenho no momento de informações para "leigos" sobre a ativação de
>> Mariana é o post de lançamento:
>>
>>
>> http://codigourbano.org/imagens-de-satelite-mostram-rastro-de-lama-e-destruicao-em-mariana-mg/
>>
>> O parágrafo final explica em linhas gerais a ativação. É o que tenho no
>> momento. Provavelmente vamos fazer um post no Código Urbano chamando pro
>> sprint final, e outro quando acabar.
>>
>> Abraços,
>> Vitor
>>
>>
>> 2015-11-25 19:26 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros <
>> alexandre@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Existe no Transifex do HOT um projeto para traduzir HTML de e-mails de
>>> campanha
>>> 
>>> destinados a impulsionar financiamento coletivo. Mas estão hesitando ou
>>> protelando iniciar com o idioma português, segundo entendi, para não
>>> desperdiçar esforços prematuros. Os interessados podem ficar atentos para
>>> quando isso começar.
>>>
>>> Alexandre Magno
>>>
>>> Em 25 de novembro de 2015 15:40, Reinaldo Neves 
>>> escreveu:
>>>
 Vitor boa tarde,



 Além das doações da comunidade OSM, de repente podemos divulgar isso em
 outras redes para ajudar na captação de recursos.  Existe algum texto ou
 página traduzido que possamos usar nessa divulgação que você conheça?

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Re: [Talk-br] Olá.

2015-11-26 Thread Felipe Alves
Aproveitando a thread, como tb entrei agora, aqui vai meu "Olá" p/ todos! ;)

Já dei uma olhada na Wiki e não encontrei, queria saber se existem canais
de comunicação de projetos específicos, ou regionais. Sou de Fortaleza - CE.

Abs

Em 26 de novembro de 2015 09:45, Vitor George 
escreveu:

> Oi Alex, bem vindo a lista.
>
> Os outros canais mais ativos além da lista são fórum, irc e telegram, no
> wiki há mais detalhes:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Contact
>
> Se tiver alguma dúvida ou quiser falar sobre o mapeamento da sua
> localidade, fique a vontade.
>
> Abraço,
> Vitor
>
>
> 2015-11-23 23:47 GMT-02:00 ALEX RODRIGO DA ROSA  >:
>
>> Não sei ainda como funciona, mas estou dizendo olá...
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Re: [Talk-br] Olá.

2015-11-26 Thread Tarcisio Oliveira

Sejam bem vindos Felipe e Alex.

Existe também o Webchat da comunidade https://webchat.oftc.net/ o canal 
é osm-br lá você pode tirar suas dúvidas também

Pode demorar a responder um pouco, mas responde.

Você pode ver por aqui http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc quem mapeia 
perto de você.



Em 26-11-2015 11:34, Felipe Alves escreveu:
Aproveitando a thread, como tb entrei agora, aqui vai meu "Olá" p/ 
todos! ;)


Já dei uma olhada na Wiki e não encontrei, queria saber se existem 
canais de comunicação de projetos específicos, ou regionais. Sou de 
Fortaleza - CE.


Abs

Em 26 de novembro de 2015 09:45, Vitor George > escreveu:


Oi Alex, bem vindo a lista.

Os outros canais mais ativos além da lista são fórum, irc e
telegram, no wiki há mais detalhes:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Contact

Se tiver alguma dúvida ou quiser falar sobre o mapeamento da sua
localidade, fique a vontade.

Abraço,
Vitor


2015-11-23 23:47 GMT-02:00 ALEX RODRIGO DA ROSA
>:

Não sei ainda como funciona, mas estou dizendo olá...

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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Vamos doar ao HOT?

2015-11-26 Thread Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros
Será que uma mapatona remota como aquela da copa
 não
reuniria naturalmente o pessoal?

Em 26 de novembro de 2015 10:44, Vitor George 
escreveu:

>
> Sobre o esforço final, não há planos de fazer um evento específico, mas
> divulgar novamente a iniciativa para atrair mapeadores. Gostaria que
> houvesse uma mapatona, mas não consigo organizar algo desse porte agora. De
> qualquer maneira, podemos divulgar a iniciativa na USP São Carlos.
>
> 2015-11-25 20:58 GMT-02:00 Joao Porto :
>
>>
>> Por favor me diga quando estão pensando em fazer o esforço para terminar
>> a tarefa do tasking manager, vou tentar incluir na agenda das minhas aulas
>> aqui na USP São Carlos.
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Written guidance on one shop with two lines of business (e.g. Cafe & Bike Rental)

2015-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-26 1:55 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt :

> But it's not really on point to this issue: how to make one unified
> business with two product lines.
> Examples include:
>
>- Ice cream + bicycle rental
>
>
is this at the same spot? I think I'd make this 2 different objects with a
common operator (and name?)


>
>- Campground + Convenience store
>
>
this doesn't seem a case actually, there will be a campground area and
inside the campground there will be a smaller area for the convinience store



>
>- Dry cleaner + Sewing + Flowers
>
>
see 1)


>
>- Pizza + Cheese Retail Shop
>
>
>
>

amenity=fast_food, cuisine=pizza, shop=cheese ? Might also be spatially
distinctable.



> Is there a really good written resource that explains some of the issues
> around one place that fits more than one category?
>


there's no real solution for cases that use the same key and there are
infinite possibilities of combinations. My favorite one is an optician
which also sells Polish deli:
http://www.23hq.com/dieterdreist/photo/7089481?album_id=4242149

I'd use several objects, if they are not distinguishable spatially I'd
overlap them, e.g. by drawing an area and reuse it in a small multipolygon
relation.

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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

2015-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-25 21:36 GMT+01:00 Federico Cortese :

> Ho cercato i carabinieri e la biblioteca, se ho ben capito sono vicini
> al comune di Quilino, ma tutti e due sono stati importati da Marco
> oltre tre anni fa come building=house e solo otto mesi fa sono state
> aggiunte le informazioni amenity=police e amenity=library dall'user
> vancori.
>



non so se building=house va bene per un fabbricato dei carabinieri, in
quanto descrive un fabbricato residenziale.

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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

2015-11-26 Thread Federico Cortese
2015-11-26 11:46 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
>
> non so se building=house va bene per un fabbricato dei carabinieri, in
> quanto descrive un fabbricato residenziale.
>

Si, in un modo o nell'altro andrebbe corretto e solo Andrea può sapere
cosa c'è veramente là :)
Ciao

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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

2015-11-26 Thread Volker Schmidt
> non so se building=house va bene per un fabbricato dei carabinieri, in
> quanto descrive un fabbricato residenziale.
>
>
> Confermo, che *non va bene*.
Vedi wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dhouse
E' un errore molto comune in OSM in Italia.
"house" non è l'equivalente di "casa"
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Re: [Talk-it] Serata OpenStreetMap: la cartografia libera al servizio del territorio

2015-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-26 12:46 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt :

> Confermo, che *non va bene*.
> Vedi wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dhouse
> E' un errore molto comune in OSM in Italia.
> "house" non è l'equivalente di "casa"
>


e un altro problema in wikidata: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3947
Il testo di wikipedia:it dice: struttura utilizzata da una persona per
ripararsi dagli agenti atmosferici

invece wikidata dice:
subclass of 
residential building 

Penso che sia pratticamente impossibile di sistemare / verificare /
aggiornare wikidata, visto che chi fa la modifica dovrebbe conoscere tutti
i articoli in tutte le lingue, oppure coordinarsi per ogni modifica con
persone che capiscono le lingue.

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[Talk-it] relazioni amministrative in Italia -

2015-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Ho appena notato che in alcuni regioni i mappatori hanno involuti le aree
amministrative.

Per esempio nel Veneto:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/43648

se guardate alla fine dell'elenco, ci sono questi membri:


   - Relation Belluno (46429) 
   as subarea
   - Relation Treviso (45300) 
   as subarea
   - Relation Vicenza (44580) 
   as subarea
   - Relation Verona (44107) 
   as subarea
   - Relation Rovigo (43647) 
   as subarea
   - Relation Padova (44217) 
   as subarea
   - Relation Venezia (44230) 
   as subarea

e loro a loro volta hanno le entità amministrative contenute come membri
delle relazioni.

Penso che NON VA FATTO. Le "subarea" in realtà ci stanno già in automatico
(sono le entità spazialmente contenute con un admin_level inferiore).

E' molto scommodo per gli utenti ed appessantisce il database inutilmente
di inserire i "figli" esplicitamente. E' scommodo, perché chi scarica la
relazione del Veneto in questa maniera scarica automaticamente tutte le
entità amministrative sotto al livello regione.

Le relazioni amministrative diventano così inutlimente pesanti.

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Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [HOT] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-26 Thread Simone Cortesi
2015-11-26 8:27 GMT+01:00 Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi :
> Negli scorsi anni ci si è posto lo stesso problema riguardo le aziende. Per
> HOT non credo sia un vero problema, ma in generale potrebbe esserlo.

anche @anonymaps non è contenta:

https://twitter.com/Anonymaps/status/668080938023329793

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Re: [Talk-it] relazioni amministrative in Italia -

2015-11-26 Thread Luca Delucchi
2015-11-26 13:39 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
> Ho appena notato che in alcuni regioni i mappatori hanno involuti le aree
> amministrative.
>
> Per esempio nel Veneto:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/43648
>
> se guardate alla fine dell'elenco, ci sono questi membri:
>
> Relation Belluno (46429) as subarea
> Relation Treviso (45300) as subarea
> Relation Vicenza (44580) as subarea
> Relation Verona (44107) as subarea
> Relation Rovigo (43647) as subarea
> Relation Padova (44217) as subarea
> Relation Venezia (44230) as subarea
>
> e loro a loro volta hanno le entità amministrative contenute come membri
> delle relazioni.
>
> Penso che NON VA FATTO. Le "subarea" in realtà ci stanno già in automatico
> (sono le entità spazialmente contenute con un admin_level inferiore).
>

+1000

> E' molto scommodo per gli utenti ed appessantisce il database inutilmente di
> inserire i "figli" esplicitamente. E' scommodo, perché chi scarica la
> relazione del Veneto in questa maniera scarica automaticamente tutte le
> entità amministrative sotto al livello regione.
>
> Le relazioni amministrative diventano così inutlimente pesanti.
>
> Ciao,
> Martin
>


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[Talk-it] Mappa OSMAnd centro Italia

2015-11-26 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Se può esser utile, ho processato il pbf di geofabrik [1] per il centro
Italia del 25 novembre. Allego torrent. Son 240 Mb.

[1]
http://download.geofabrik.de/europe/italy/centro.html


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Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [HOT] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-26 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Ho l'impressione che adesso che OSM è diventato appetibile (leggi:
potenziale fonte di profitto, grande profitto), le aziende considerino
immorale lasciarne il controllo ai contributori. Sono ancora più
preoccupato per i legami che esistono tra ONG, governo e difesa USA (HOT,
USAid, Mapgive). Ho notato che negli ultimi mesi di twitter sono passati
moltissimi messaggi autocelebrativi tra queste entità... sarà un caso?





Il giorno 26 novembre 2015 13:46, Simone Cortesi  ha
scritto:

> 2015-11-26 8:27 GMT+01:00 Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi <
> e.marascal...@gmail.com>:
> > Negli scorsi anni ci si è posto lo stesso problema riguardo le aziende.
> Per
> > HOT non credo sia un vero problema, ma in generale potrebbe esserlo.
>
> anche @anonymaps non è contenta:
>
> https://twitter.com/Anonymaps/status/668080938023329793
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [HOT] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-26 Thread Alessandro

Il 26/11/2015 17:10, Cascafico Giovanni ha scritto:

Ho l'impressione che adesso che OSM è diventato appetibile (leggi:
potenziale fonte di profitto, grande profitto), le aziende considerino
immorale lasciarne il controllo ai contributori.



Anche se così non fosse è sempre meglio avere un certo bilanciamento nei 
poteri, nel senso che è giusto che ci siano espressioni di diverse aree 
geografiche e di competenza. Solo così una democrazia continua a crescere.


Alessandro Ale_Zena_IT

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Re: [Talk-it] relazioni amministrative in Italia -

2015-11-26 Thread girarsi_liste
On 26/11/2015 13:39, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Ho appena notato che in alcuni regioni i mappatori hanno involuti le aree
> amministrative.
> 


In effetti il tag admin_level è chiaro sulla wiki, però gli esempi che
riporti sono tutti dello stesso mappatore tedesco (?).

Quanto a Venezia, il confine amministrativo comprende altri comuni, come
Portogruaro, che mi risulta comune a sè:

http://www.comune.portogruaro.ve.it/




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[Talk-lt] Vilniaus dviračių takų spec. planas

2015-11-26 Thread Eduardas Kriščiūnas
Šį vakarą vilnius.lt turėtų pasirodyti duomenys su trasų žemėlapiu. 
Kokia yra galimybė padaryti openmap.lt ar kur kitur sluoksnį, kuriame 
matytųsi trasų įrengimo etapiškumas.
Labai reikia, kad tas žemėlapis būtų viešas ir kiekvienas suinteresuotas 
galėtų greitai pasitikrinti, ar yra laikomasi spec. plano sprendimų, ar 
kažkas daroma pagal iš aukščiau gautus nurodymus telefonu.


Duomenys, manau, etapais suskirstyti nebus, tad reikės juos kažkaip 
pakapoti ir priskirti reikiamas žymas.




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Re: [Talk-lt] Vilniaus dviračių takų spec. planas

2015-11-26 Thread Eduardas Kriščiūnas

  
  
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Re: [Talk-cl] Números romanos en regiones

2015-11-26 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli
Hola Carlos,

Es una noticia muy relevante. Sin embargo, hago un llamado a todos a
esperar a que la ley este publicada (entre en efecto) antes de borrar los
números.

Saludos,

Julio Costa Zambelli
Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile

julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl

http://www.openstreetmap.cl/
Cel: +56(9)89981083

2015-11-21 23:07 GMT-03:00 Carlos Meneses Stevens :

> Hola, cómo están?
> Para quien no vio pasar la noticia, se llevó a cabo una votación en la
> Comisión de Gobierno Interior, de la Cámara de Diputados, para eliminar el
> número romano de la denominación de las regiones.
> En qué terminó la votación?... la nota por aquí:
> http://www.plataformaurbana.cl/archive/2015/11/13/diputados-acuerdan-eliminar-el-numero-romano-de-las-regiones/
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> *Carlos Meneses Stevens*
> *Diseñador de Experiencia de usuario / Diseñador de Servicios*
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Re: [Talk-es] Fwd: Comparativa imágenes Bing y PNOA

2015-11-26 Thread Diego García
Hola Miguel, y buenas tardes a todos en general.

En primer lugar, me presento, ya que escribo muy poco por estas listas de
correo: me llamo Diego, y llevo ya algunos años dedicando tiempo a esto de
los mapas como afición, coincidiendo con la compra del gps y la bicicleta
de montaña al uso. Muchos se verán reflejados en esta historia :)

Quiero decirte que la explicación que has ofrecido en este post me ha
sorprendido agradablemente. Primero por lo clara e interesante y, sobre
todo, por exponer un problema del que no son conscientes muchos de los que
se lanzan a esta bonita aventura de *mapear *el mundo. En mis inicios, me
dedicaba a trazar mis propios mapas con Compe para utilizar con el gps y la
bici, harto de la falta de exactitud (por no decir otra cosa) de los mapas
disponibles. En un momento dado, descubrí los datos que pone a disposición
del público el CNIG y con ellos, la rejilla del LIDAR. Tras generar las
curvas de nivel, ví un desfase tremendo en algunas zonas de montaña
respecto a las ortofotos del PNOA, concretamente en el Salto del Roldán, al
norte de Huesca. También se puede apreciar en otras partes altas de la
sierra. Desde entonces me sigo apoyando en el PNOA para dibujar, pero
siempre visitando la zona gps en mano antes o después. Creo que es la forma
correcta de hacerlo, y que debería ser la práctica a seguir, especialmente
por los que empiezan.

Por otro lado, te puedo poner un ejemplo que me ha sucedido hoy mismo: en
una zona de Huesca en la que tracé los edificios y calles hace algunos
meses, he visto que un usuario había comenzado a etiquetar talleres. La
sorpresa ha sido grata (no *mapea *demasiada gente por aquí), pero me he
dado cuenta que se veían cosas raras en el render. Al echar un vistazo con
el JOSM, descubro edificios solapados, fuera de lugar, calles cortadas en
dos... y que en el *changeset *el usuario declaraba usar iD y Bing.
Efectivamente: antes de corregir, puse la capa de Bing y puede comprobar
que se ajustaba perfectamente a los errores que había introducido el
usuario en cuestión. Es una zona en la que ya he comprobado con el gps que
tanto el catastro como PNOA "aciertan", así que he corregido lo que he
visto fuera de sitio. No entiendo este tipo de ediciones: sin conocer la
zona, con herramientas dudosas (como el Bing, a no ser que lo ajustes
correctamente en JOSM), y estropeando trabajo de los demas. Aunque no me
enfada (aquí todos aprenden, por mucho tiempo que lleven, y yo el primero),
reconozco que algo de disgusto sí que produce.

Suerte con el curso que estás dando, no sé si ya habrá terminado. Veo de
vez en cuando ediciones por aquí, cerca de Huesca, con etiquetas #osmzgz15,
y espero ver más en lo sucesivo ;) El año que viene esperamos movernos algo
por Huesca, con algún mapping party y, puede, que un curso-taller.

Recibe un cordial saludo,

Diego.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Huesca

El mié., 25 nov. 2015 a las 13:13, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo (<
msevill...@gmail.com>) escribió:

> (Reenvio email que olvidé quitar adjuntos en el anterior)
>
> Hola a todos,
>
> Con motivo de la preparación del curso sobre OSM que estoy impartiendo con
> la inestimable ayuda de Alejandro Suárez (@alejandroscf) en Zaragoza [1] he
> estado contrastando y preparando material gráfico para mis presentaciones
> [2] y que he compartido en el grupo de Telegram y he colgado en imagur.com
> [3].
>
> Os pego aquí lo que he dicho por esa vía:
>
> La imagen de Escuaín y que es de las mismas coordenadas habla por sí sola:
> existe una error de casi 50m entre una imagen Bing y la del PNOA en el área
> edificada. Las líneas negras que se observan son del Catastro (que
> conincide con el PNOA).
>
> Entonces Jonás ha comentado que "esto puede pasar con todos los WMS" y no
> he podido más que contestar argumentando que los errores están derivados de
> la corrección fotogramétrica de las imágenes y he continuado con lo
> siguiente (corto y pego del grupo de Telegram):
>
> La ortorectificación fotogramétrica de las imágenes, o sea, y a grandes
> rasfos, pasar de una imagen tomada por una cámara (deformación cónica) a
> que se ajuste a la realidad (proyección ortogonal) se resuelve teniendo
> presente (1) las características del sensor/cámara (cuál es su modelo
> "optico"), y, sobre todo, (2) reajustando las deformaciones del relieve [4].
>
> La imagen Bing en su mayor parte para España viene de imágenes de satélite
> de alta resolución (GeoEye / Quickbird) que son corregidas de manera
> automática (1) ajustando perfectamente la deformación del sensor pero con
> (2) un reajuste a la topografía que deriva de un  modelo digital del
> terreno muy grosero.
>
> Las imágenes del Plan Nacional de Ortofotografía Aérea del CNIG-IGN (PNOA)
> [5], sin embargo, derivan de un laborioso trabajo de rectificación de
> fotográficas tomadas desde un avión cuyo (1) ajuste del sensor es preciso
> (esto ya está superado para todos los sensores/cámaras digitales... hasta
> para los de vuestros móviles) y (2) 

Re: [Talk-at] Import Ärzte OGD Steiermark

2015-11-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
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Hallo,

On 09/11/2013 01:12 PM, Michael Maier wrote:
> Seit Monaten warten die von OGD Steiermark freigegebenen 2005 
> steirischen Ärzte auf einen Import. Jetzt hab ich endlich die Zeit 
> gefunden, das vorzubereiten.

Ich bin jetzt mit langer Verspätung auf diesen Import gestossen und
finde ihn problematisch. Einmal wegen des Imports der unnötigen Tags
"OGD-Stmk:ARZTNR" und "OGD-Stmk:OBJECTID", dann aber auch, weil diese
"doppelten Ärzte" offenbar bislang niemand aufgeräumt hat.

Importe der Art "ich weiss, dass das hier Schrott ist, aber irgendwer
wird es schon aufräumen" sollten eigentlich nicht sein.

Wäre dies ein undiskutierter Import gewesen, ich hätte ihn ohne lang
zu fackeln wieder gelöscht. Aber da hier offenbar vor zwei Jahren
niemand Bedenken geäussert hat, will ich auch niemanden bevormunden.
Ich hoffe aber, wenn das nächste mal jemand einen Import dieser Art
vorschlägt, dass ihr etwas pingeliger seid ;)

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Vamos doar ao HOT?

2015-11-26 Thread Joao Porto
Acho ótima a ideia de uma mapatona como a da copa, nós topamos participar
fazendo uma mapatona local e reunindo alunos na usp são carlos. Seria ótimo
ter colaborações da comunidade, mesmo que virtualmente. Vou divulgar amanhã
numa palestra  que vou dar na UFLA.

Seria muito importante também tentar contato com organizações que pudessem
usar os dados, isso nos daria um bom peso para atrair contribuidores,
inclusive internacionais.

Abraços,
João

Em 26 de novembro de 2015 16:27, Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros <
alexandre@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Será que uma mapatona remota como aquela da copa
>  não
> reuniria naturalmente o pessoal?
>
> Em 26 de novembro de 2015 10:44, Vitor George 
> escreveu:
>
>>
>> Sobre o esforço final, não há planos de fazer um evento específico, mas
>> divulgar novamente a iniciativa para atrair mapeadores. Gostaria que
>> houvesse uma mapatona, mas não consigo organizar algo desse porte agora. De
>> qualquer maneira, podemos divulgar a iniciativa na USP São Carlos.
>>
>> 2015-11-25 20:58 GMT-02:00 Joao Porto :
>>
>>>
>>> Por favor me diga quando estão pensando em fazer o esforço para terminar
>>> a tarefa do tasking manager, vou tentar incluir na agenda das minhas aulas
>>> aqui na USP São Carlos.
>>>
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Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

2015-11-26 Thread Marián Kyral
-- Původní zpráva --

Od: Tom Ka 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 26. 11. 2015 7:39:22
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

"Dne 25. listopadu 2015 23:28 Marián Kyral  napsal(a):
> Mimochodem,
> byl by tu nějaký zájemce o OSM hospodu v Ostravě nebo okolí?

je okoli Brno nebo Olomouc? :-D

"



Když přivřu obě oči, tak Olomouc ještě. Ale Brno už je trochu móc daleko. V 
každém případě, návštěvu Brna, ani Olomouce momentálně neplánuji.





Marián

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] New UrbIS presets for Bruno and everybody

2015-11-26 Thread Sander Deryckere
Do we really need these old URBIS urls? What use are they for regular
mappers (in contrast to people interested in recent history of a region)?
IMO they would clutter the list.


Meanwhile, I also opened an issue to add the TMS layer to iD:
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2846

Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] New UrbIS presets for Bruno and everybody

2015-11-26 Thread Jo
In fact they do clutter the list. Until yesterday I didn't even know those
older versions existed and how to go about adding them though.

There might be a solution:

It is also possible to add these configurations through JOSM Remote
Control. So for the people who want the older UrbIS and SPW imagery for
comparison, we could create urls on a wiki page and/or a post on osm.be,
invoking RC.

What do you think?

Jo

2015-11-26 10:07 GMT+01:00 Sander Deryckere :

> Do we really need these old URBIS urls? What use are they for regular
> mappers (in contrast to people interested in recent history of a region)?
> IMO they would clutter the list.
>
>
> Meanwhile, I also opened an issue to add the TMS layer to iD:
> https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2846
>
> Regards,
> Sander
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] New UrbIS presets for Bruno and everybody

2015-11-26 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-26 10:07, Sander Deryckere wrote :
> Do we really need these old URBIS urls? What use are they for regular
> mappers (in contrast to people interested in recent history of a
> region)? IMO they would clutter the list.
Old versions of aerial photos are often very interesting when something
is difficult to see on recent ones.
An example that their users know very well is trees that are hiding the
ground or not.
Also, I was very impressed to discover the works over 6 years in Brussels.
And they may be useful, for example to check that what's on the map is
an old topology.
But if the general opinion is to lessen chance to see better and not
find older years exist, I will remove them.
Don't forget (obviously) to tell which years you want removed.
And install what you like before removal, those who like.

André.



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Re: [Talk-in] Adding missing towns and villages to OSM

2015-11-26 Thread Jothirnadh Sai
Ishan,
As Justin said there is no licensing requirements for the GNS data, but
there are a lot of errors in the data as the GNS data is too outdated. We
can't directly import the whole data, but can do it with the reference of
local mappers. It would be really good if the local mappers would
contribute in their surrounding regions with the GNS layer reference.

With Regards,
JOTHIRNADH
Open Data Analyst
Mapbox, India
Phn No.: +919490712829

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 12:50 AM, Justin Meyers <
justinelliotmey...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ishan,
> The license for the nga data is here:
> https://www.nga.mil/ProductsServices/GeographicNames/Pages/default.aspx
>
> "There are no licensing requirements or restrictions in place for the use
> of the GNS data. However, we recommend using the following citation to
> identify the GNS as a source:
>
> Toponymic information is based on the Geographic Names Data Base,
> containing official standard names approved by the United States Board on
> Geographic Names and maintained by the National Geospatial-Intelligence
> Agency. The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency name, initials, and
> seal are protected by 10 United States Code Section 425."
>
>
> geonames.org  has
> many sources (which the nga data was the original dataset):
> http://www.geonames.org/data-sources.html
> 
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jothirnadh,
>> Can you please point us to the license info of the nga.mil server you
>> mentioned in the blog? In case it is not of appropriate license, we cannot
>> import into OSM. I believe geonames.org data is not of suitable license
>> (others can correct me if I'm wrong). Is the data at the nga.mil map
>> layer based on geonames.org?
>> Regards,
>> Ishan
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Aneesh T  wrote:
>>
>>> Not by a long shot... It's extremely time consuming
>>> On 25 Nov 2015 2:21 p.m., "Arun Ganesh"  wrote:
>>>
 Aneesh, are the towns and villages in Karnataka 100% complete?

 On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Aneesh T  wrote:

> If you're interested in Karnataka.. The kpwd website has village names
> which can be mapped out... As has been done by several contributors..
> On 25 Nov 2015 1:04 p.m., "Jothirnadh Sai" 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear OSM community,
>>
>> My name is Jothirnadh 
>> and I recently entered the OSM community as a crowd mapper. I found that
>> there are many unmapped towns and villages in India and on the process of
>> finding ways to add them I wrote a OSM diary post
>>  on
>> explaining the ways to improve the data. It would be great to have more
>> eyes on it and feedback from the OSM community on improvement of the
>> missing towns and villages data on OSM.
>>
>> With Regards,
>> JOTHIRNADH
>> Open Data Analyst
>> Mapbox, India
>> Phn No.: +919490712829
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Re: [Talk-in] Adding missing towns and villages to OSM

2015-11-26 Thread Arun Ganesh
Also of interest maybe the geocoded articles points from Wikipedia. Its not
ok for a direct import either, but can help as a reference layer. Does not
seem like anyone has made a background layer of that data yet.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Jothirnadh Sai 
wrote:

> Ishan,
> As Justin said there is no licensing requirements for the GNS data, but
> there are a lot of errors in the data as the GNS data is too outdated. We
> can't directly import the whole data, but can do it with the reference of
> local mappers. It would be really good if the local mappers would
> contribute in their surrounding regions with the GNS layer reference.
>
> With Regards,
> JOTHIRNADH
> Open Data Analyst
> Mapbox, India
> Phn No.: +919490712829
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 12:50 AM, Justin Meyers <
> justinelliotmey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ishan,
>> The license for the nga data is here:
>> https://www.nga.mil/ProductsServices/GeographicNames/Pages/default.aspx
>>
>> "There are no licensing requirements or restrictions in place for the
>> use of the GNS data. However, we recommend using the following citation to
>> identify the GNS as a source:
>>
>> Toponymic information is based on the Geographic Names Data Base,
>> containing official standard names approved by the United States Board on
>> Geographic Names and maintained by the National Geospatial-Intelligence
>> Agency. The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency name, initials, and
>> seal are protected by 10 United States Code Section 425."
>>
>>
>> geonames.org  has
>> many sources (which the nga data was the original dataset):
>> http://www.geonames.org/data-sources.html
>> 
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
>> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jothirnadh,
>>> Can you please point us to the license info of the nga.mil server you
>>> mentioned in the blog? In case it is not of appropriate license, we cannot
>>> import into OSM. I believe geonames.org data is not of suitable license
>>> (others can correct me if I'm wrong). Is the data at the nga.mil map
>>> layer based on geonames.org?
>>> Regards,
>>> Ishan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Aneesh T  wrote:
>>>
 Not by a long shot... It's extremely time consuming
 On 25 Nov 2015 2:21 p.m., "Arun Ganesh" 
 wrote:

> Aneesh, are the towns and villages in Karnataka 100% complete?
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Aneesh T 
> wrote:
>
>> If you're interested in Karnataka.. The kpwd website has village
>> names which can be mapped out... As has been done by several 
>> contributors..
>> On 25 Nov 2015 1:04 p.m., "Jothirnadh Sai" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear OSM community,
>>>
>>> My name is Jothirnadh
>>>  and I recently
>>> entered the OSM community as a crowd mapper. I found that there are many
>>> unmapped towns and villages in India and on the process of finding ways 
>>> to
>>> add them I wrote a OSM diary post
>>>  on
>>> explaining the ways to improve the data. It would be great to have more
>>> eyes on it and feedback from the OSM community on improvement of the
>>> missing towns and villages data on OSM.
>>>
>>> With Regards,
>>> JOTHIRNADH
>>> Open Data Analyst
>>> Mapbox, India
>>> Phn No.: +919490712829
>>>
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Re: [Talk-in] Adding missing towns and villages to OSM

2015-11-26 Thread Yogesh योगि
The WikiMiniAtlas does provide the map with an overlay of all language 
geocoded articles from Wikipedia[1], but the basemap is without any 
labels[2] as they're provided through json overlays[3][4].


[1]https://wma.wmflabs.org/
[2]https://wma.wmflabs.org/tiles/mapnik/12/5263/tile_5263_5295.png
[3]https://wma.wmflabs.org/label.php?l=en=14061=10593=13=Earth
[4]https://wma.wmflabs.org/tiles/jsontile.php?x=10592=10515=13

On 11/26/2015 04:42 PM, Arun Ganesh wrote:
Also of interest maybe the geocoded articles points from Wikipedia. 
Its not ok for a direct import either, but can help as a reference 
layer. Does not seem like anyone has made a background layer of that 
data yet.


On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Jothirnadh Sai > wrote:


Ishan,
As Justin said there is no licensing requirements for the GNS
data, but there are a lot of errors in the data as the GNS data is
too outdated. We can't directly import the whole data, but can do
it with the reference of local mappers. It would be really good if
the local mappers would contribute in their surrounding regions
with the GNS layer reference.

With Regards,
JOTHIRNADH
Open Data Analyst
Mapbox, India
Phn No.: +919490712829 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 12:50 AM, Justin Meyers
> wrote:

Ishan,
The license for the nga data is here:
https://www.nga.mil/ProductsServices/GeographicNames/Pages/default.aspx


"There are no licensing requirements or restrictions in place
for the use of the GNS data. However, we recommend using the
following citation to identify the GNS as a source:

Toponymic information is based on the Geographic Names Data
Base, containing official standard names approved by the
United States Board on Geographic Names and maintained by the
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. The National
Geospatial-Intelligence Agency name, initials, and seal are
protected by 10 United States Code Section 425."


geonames.org
 has
many sources (which the nga data was the original dataset):
http://www.geonames.org/data-sources.html




On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya
>
wrote:

Hi Jothirnadh,
Can you please point us to the license info of the nga.mil
 server you mentioned in the blog? In case
it is not of appropriate license, we cannot import into
OSM. I believe geonames.org  data is
not of suitable license (others can correct me if I'm
wrong). Is the data at the nga.mil  map
layer based on geonames.org ?
Regards,
Ishan

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Aneesh T
> wrote:

Not by a long shot... It's extremely time consuming

On 25 Nov 2015 2:21 p.m., "Arun Ganesh"
> wrote:

Aneesh, are the towns and villages in Karnataka
100% complete?

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Aneesh T
> wrote:

If you're interested in Karnataka.. The kpwd
website has village names which can be mapped
out... As has been done by several contributors..

On 25 Nov 2015 1:04 p.m., "Jothirnadh Sai"
> wrote:

Dear OSM community,

My name is Jothirnadh

and I recently entered the OSM community
as a crowd mapper. I found that there are
many unmapped towns and villages in India
and on the process of finding ways to add
them I wrote a OSM diary post

 on
explaining the ways to improve the
data. It would be great to have more eyes
on it and feedback from the OSM community