Re: [OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

[Adrian Budugan]

Hello Midgard,

Thank you for your reply. We have indeed encountered many false-positive 
results from keep right during our edits. But as you mentioned, it helps 
bringing up any potential errors that we can review and then correct only if 
needed.

Kind regards, 
Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Midgard  
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 3:24 PM
To: OpenStreetMap Belgium 
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

Quoting Adrian Budugan (2020-04-23 13:29:32)
> Hi Marc,
> 
> It's nice to hear from you. From our first analysis, Brussels looks quite 
> complete and correctly mapped. We are looking to  first correct any errors 
> that might come up by running the Keep Right tool.
> Where there will be any doubts, we will leave notes and/or ask the community 
> before making any edits.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Adrian

Keep right "errors" are not always real errors. I see a lot of almost-junction 
reports in my neighbourhood, but they're all false positives.

Of course it highlights a lot of valid problems too. What I mean to say is, 
please don't map for the validator.

Kind regards,
M!dgard

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

[Adrian Budugan]

Hello Joost,

Most likely we will begin next week to edit on the map. We will keep you all up 
to date with our progress and any edits that we might do.

Thank you for your support.

p.s.  It’s nice too hear you visited Cluj-Napoca. If it has been a long time 
ago, the city has developed quite fast.



From: joost schouppe 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 1:10 PM
To: Adrian Budugan 
Cc: OpenStreetMap Belgium 
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

Hi Adrian,

Looking forward to your help! Do post here or on our Riot when you start the 
real work.

Error fixing is always helpful. Having looked at the Improve OSM tools, I don't 
see how it could help you much? OpenStreetCam is rather limited in Belgium 
(most of us contribute to Mapillary instead, but the day someone provides a 
server that feeds both projects, I'm sure we'll switch to that!). And for the 
Cygnus tool, you need government data. There is road geometry, but the 
differences are largely because the official data is lagging. I'm not aware of 
Brussels traffic sign data.

Best,
Joost
p.s. I really enjoyed CLuj Napoca when I was there many years ago

Op do 23 apr. 2020 om 11:46 schreef Adrian Budugan 
mailto:adrian.budu...@telenav.com>>:
Hello Joost,

Thank you for your reply and for the info provided. Considering that we will be 
working remotely, we are always checking the history of the edits before making 
any changes. We also decided to first rely on notes, as you suggested, and edit 
only where we are 100% sure.

We will be fixing errors  using the Keep Right tool and add one ways and turn 
restrictions using Improve OSM.

We will keep in touch as much as it is needed and thank you again for your 
feedback.

Kind Regards,
Adrian


From: joost schouppe mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 9:14 PM
To: OpenStreetMap Belgium 
mailto:talk-be@openstreetmap.org>>
Cc: Adrian Budugan 
mailto:adrian.budu...@telenav.com>>
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

Hi Adrian,

To add to that, there's an overview of all the channels at our local chapter's 
website: 
https://openstreetmap.be/en/contact.html

We have decent Mapillary coverage, but are constantly looking to get more and 
better cameras for our volunteers (hint, hint).
There is good and recent imagery (properly indexed both in the imagery layer 
index and the JOSM index). There are also good basemaps from the government, 
which you can use for mapping.

As always, both imagery and basemaps can be outdated - sometimes OSM is ahead, 
sometimes it isn't. There's quite an active community, so be mindful of the 
last edit date on object (I should know, I recently messed up JanFi's work).

What data will you be basing your edits on? I would think that Brussels is 
mapped pretty well, so it might be hard to improve remotely.
It might be useful to start off with just Notes, so that we can review them 
locally. That might avoid any editing conflict.
I think the most active mapper in Brussels is bxl-forever, might be useful to 
engage him directly.

Joost

Op wo 22 apr. 2020 om 20:01 schreef Pieter Vander Vennet 
mailto:pieterv...@posteo.net>>:

Hello Adrian and Telenav-team.

Welcome in Belgium, the more support, the merrier.

First of all, there is quite an active community in Belgium - I'm one of them, 
as are several others. As already mentioned, the matrix-chat is an excellent 
way to reach out to us and have questions answered quite fast - please join us 
here: 
https://riot.im/app/#/room/#osmbe:matrix.org

Second, I was wondering where you are based - the best way to map is by using 
local knowledge and by running around to see what the situation is. Also, being 
here IRL will allow us to meetup or to get in touch with the OpenKnowledge 
Belgium - they do great work for Open Source and Open Data.

However, I presume that you will mostly be doing remote work, based on official 
data and mapillary streetview. This too can be useful, but the situation of 
Brussels is quite volatile and might change a lot. Don't be afraid to to ask us 
(or a local) to check up on the situation.

At last, a lot of cyclists are using OSM in Brussels - the company I work for 
even hosts  a professional cycle route planner for the city. Please, be careful 
not to break it. Especially when adding 'oneway=yes', this might force the 
routeplanner to consider this oneway for cyclists as well. Please, if it is 
clear that cyclists are allowed to go both ways, add 'oneway:bicycle=no' or, 
even better, add the appropriate cyc