Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussel - Bruxelles
you can add the other language names with for instance name:fr tag or so. If there are - or will be - different language versions of the osm rendering, dunno if there are, they would be marked with the name of the language specific name, if there is one. see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Places and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name you shouldnt add the other language to the 'default' name however. Luc / Speedy On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:53 AM, s...@daxu.be wrote: So the naming of Brussel - Brussels was correct since the Brussel region doesn't have language facilities for german speaking people. Otherwise you should even adjust the names of Kortrijk (Courtrai), Brugge (Bruges), Gent (Ghent), Namur (Namen), ... Chris Browet wrote: Interesting one... I would have indeed intuitively thought the language usage would be defined by region. But as there is no german region (only community), where is german an official language (and how is it geographically defined)? It's in the first lines of Belgian Constitution (article 4): translated a bit: Belgium is divided into four language areas: the Dutch language area, the French language are, the bilingual area Brussels-Capital and the German language area. Each municipality belongs to exactly one of these language areas. The boundaries of the four language areas can't be changed or corrected other than by a law, passed by majority of votes in each language group of each Room, on the condition that a majority of the members of each language group is present, and that the total of yes votes in both language groups reach two thirds of all votes. So there you have it: four language areas, and they're geographically defined by the borders of the municipalities in each language area. Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussel - Bruxelles
2009/8/3 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wannes wrote: 2009/8/3 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com btw, while checking the history of the place node (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/17401554/history) I've seen the name has apparently been changed some days ago to include German as well (and Dutch and French switched place as well), so it's now Bruxelles - Brussel - Brüssel. Now I don't exactly see a reason here why German should be included... Because it's an official language in Belgium? (and we do /not/ want to discriminate anyone :-) ) http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talen_in_Belgi%C3%AB Yeah, of course I know Belgium has German as official language (hence it's name tag is België - Belgique - Belgien), but German isn't an official language in Brussels. Interesting one... I would have indeed intuitively thought the language usage would be defined by region. But as there is no german region (only community), where is german an official language (and how is it geographically defined)? ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussel - Bruxelles
In order to prevent any flamewars, I believe it was decided on that whoever created the street/node could decide the order. In truth, I don't really care myself. If the original order of the node (before 2007) was FR - NL, it would be more correct to use that order since that means someone changed it later on. - Gyrbo wannes schreef: I don't care. (Yes, please do change, that is :-) ) 2009/8/3 Chris Browet c...@semperpax.com mailto:c...@semperpax.com I wouldn't want to start a flemish/french war, but Brussels is tagged [name:nl - name:fr] style where every other name in our capital follow a [name:fr - name:nl] standard? This would appear to be purely historical, as it is this way since 2007. I would like an approval on the list before changing it ;-) - Chris - ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- wannes ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
