Re: [OSM-talk-be] Changing default maxspeed for Brussels in 2021

[joost schouppe]

Hi Yves,

Sounds good. We'll need to update at least these pages:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Maxspeed#Belgium
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed#Belgium

Have you given it any thought how we might organize the update efficiently?
I thought perhaps the ways now tagged with source:maxspeed=[something
urban] could be bulk-edited after the change, but it looks like many of
those roads might actually change to explicitly signed 50 during the
transition. So I'm thinking we need to review ALL the roads with a maxspeed
again after the change. To do that, maybe we could take a dump before the
change and use that for some sort of mapping challenge, or add a tag to
indicate that the maxpseed should be reviewed (the risk being that people
might correct the maxpseed and not remove the tag).

Best
Joost

Op zo 10 mei 2020 om 22:25 schreef Yves bxl-forever <
bxl-fore...@linuxmail.org>:

> Hello, folks,
>
> As of January 2021, Brussels will change the default maxspeed on urban
> roads to become an all-30-kph city.  This goes for the entire
> Brussels-Capital Region (161 km²).
> Basically, the idea is the following:
> * no speed roadsign will mean 30-kph
> * on the main roads there will be C43 signs with a 50-kph limit (or
> possibly 70-kph on the biggest ones); those signs are to be repeated after
> every intersection.
> * living streets (20-kph) or pedestrian areas are left untouched
> * motorways are left untouched
>
> The good point is that it will be much easier than now—for drivers and for
> mappers alike—to know whether 50 or 30-kph applies somewhere.
> I will no longer use BE:urban because it’s not the same in every Region.
>
> May I suggest the following tagging scheme
> * maxspeed=30 + source:maxspeed=BE-BXL:urban
> * maxspeed=50 (or 70) + source:maxspeed=sign
>
> What do you think?
>
> Cheers.
> Yves
>
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[OSM-talk-be] Changing default maxspeed for Brussels in 2021

[Yves bxl-forever]

Hello, folks,

As of January 2021, Brussels will change the default maxspeed on urban roads to 
become an all-30-kph city.  This goes for the entire Brussels-Capital Region 
(161 km²).
Basically, the idea is the following:
* no speed roadsign will mean 30-kph
* on the main roads there will be C43 signs with a 50-kph limit (or possibly 
70-kph on the biggest ones); those signs are to be repeated after every 
intersection.
* living streets (20-kph) or pedestrian areas are left untouched
* motorways are left untouched

The good point is that it will be much easier than now—for drivers and for 
mappers alike—to know whether 50 or 30-kph applies somewhere.
I will no longer use BE:urban because it’s not the same in every Region.

May I suggest the following tagging scheme
* maxspeed=30 + source:maxspeed=BE-BXL:urban
* maxspeed=50 (or 70) + source:maxspeed=sign

What do you think?

Cheers.
Yves

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