[Talk-br] Colaboradores estrangeiros

2013-06-17 Por tôpico Fernando Trebien
Pessoal,

Estou passando adiante um problema apontado por um colaborador
uruguaio sobre relações de fronteira na borda entre Brasil e Guiana
Francesa. Ele corrigiu um problema lá mas disse que há outros com
fronteiras com admin_level 4 ou 8. Alguém quer verificar?

http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=multipolygonlon=-60.33023lat=4.37133zoom=9overlays=invalid_geometry_hull,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes

Ele disse que seria necessário ter conhecimento da fronteiras para
consertar. Sei que uma boa fonte para fronteiras entre países é o LNCC
(http://info.lncc.br). Para as estaduais e municipais talvez seja
melhor alguém que mora no lugar ou que tem acesso aos dados oficiais
verifique.

-- Forwarded message --
From: muralito m-360508-de9...@messages.openstreetmap.org
Date: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM
Subject: [OpenStreetMap] Re: Brasil-Guyana border was broken
To: fernando.treb...@gmail.com


Hi Fernando Trebien,

muralito has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the subject
Re: Brasil-Guyana border was broken:

==

Sure, yesterday I also fixed some borders in RS.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16569574
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16569483
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16567334
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16567278 but there are
others border relations broken that cannot be fixed without knowing
the real border.

I found them with OSM Inspector.
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=multipolygonlon=-54.00073lat=-29.38792zoom=7overlays=invalid_geometry_hull,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes

(the warnings showed today are from data 2013-06-14 and still didn't
show my corrections)

Regards, M.

On 2013-06-17 15:29:36 UTC Fernando Trebien wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for the help. If you wish you can fix the other borders as
well, the Brazilian community will be glad :D I'll tell them about
these issues but I think there's nobody mapping that remote area yet.
Did you find out about this with Keep Right?

On 2013-06-15 14:51:35 UTC muralito wrote:

Fernando:

Brasi-Guyana border was broken, probably by RCCaleffi. I closed the
admin_level=2 ring in the node
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/565262437 but I didn't adjust
the border. There are also some borders of admin_level 4 and 8 broken
in the same area.

¿Could you or someone in BR project check it and contact the user?

Regards, M.

==

You can also read the message at
http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/360508 and you can reply at
http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/360508


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Re: [Talk-br] Colaboradores estrangeiros

2013-06-17 Por tôpico Aun Johnsen
O problema e que o fronteira entre brasil e guiana-francese principal mente e 
selva silvestre - ninguem mora ai

Aun Johnsen
Sent from my iPhone

On 17. juni 2013, at 15:49, Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pessoal,
 
 Estou passando adiante um problema apontado por um colaborador
 uruguaio sobre relações de fronteira na borda entre Brasil e Guiana
 Francesa. Ele corrigiu um problema lá mas disse que há outros com
 fronteiras com admin_level 4 ou 8. Alguém quer verificar?
 
 http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=multipolygonlon=-60.33023lat=4.37133zoom=9overlays=invalid_geometry_hull,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes
 
 Ele disse que seria necessário ter conhecimento da fronteiras para
 consertar. Sei que uma boa fonte para fronteiras entre países é o LNCC
 (http://info.lncc.br). Para as estaduais e municipais talvez seja
 melhor alguém que mora no lugar ou que tem acesso aos dados oficiais
 verifique.
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: muralito m-360508-de9...@messages.openstreetmap.org
 Date: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM
 Subject: [OpenStreetMap] Re: Brasil-Guyana border was broken
 To: fernando.treb...@gmail.com
 
 
 Hi Fernando Trebien,
 
 muralito has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the subject
 Re: Brasil-Guyana border was broken:
 
 ==
 
 Sure, yesterday I also fixed some borders in RS.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16569574
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16569483
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16567334
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16567278 but there are
 others border relations broken that cannot be fixed without knowing
 the real border.
 
 I found them with OSM Inspector.
 http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=multipolygonlon=-54.00073lat=-29.38792zoom=7overlays=invalid_geometry_hull,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes
 
 (the warnings showed today are from data 2013-06-14 and still didn't
 show my corrections)
 
 Regards, M.
 
 On 2013-06-17 15:29:36 UTC Fernando Trebien wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for the help. If you wish you can fix the other borders as
 well, the Brazilian community will be glad :D I'll tell them about
 these issues but I think there's nobody mapping that remote area yet.
 Did you find out about this with Keep Right?
 
 On 2013-06-15 14:51:35 UTC muralito wrote:
 
 Fernando:
 
 Brasi-Guyana border was broken, probably by RCCaleffi. I closed the
 admin_level=2 ring in the node
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/565262437 but I didn't adjust
 the border. There are also some borders of admin_level 4 and 8 broken
 in the same area.
 
 ¿Could you or someone in BR project check it and contact the user?
 
 Regards, M.
 
 ==
 
 You can also read the message at
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/360508 and you can reply at
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/360508
 
 
 --
 Fernando Trebien
 +55 (51) 9962-5409
 
 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law)
 The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law)
 
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Re: [Talk-br] Colaboradores estrangeiros

2013-06-17 Por tôpico Fernando Trebien
Tem razão.

Eu questionei o usuário agora, parece que os problemas a que ele se
referiu são as linhas verdes, que são um aviso do OSMI de que os
multipolígonos estão com a tag type=boundary quando o mais certo
(porque do jeito que está não está errado) seria ter
type=multipolygon e boundary=administrative.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:boundary#Software_implementation

Talvez seja possível consertar isso de forma automática, sem muita urgência.

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org wrote:
 O problema e que o fronteira entre brasil e guiana-francese principal mente e 
 selva silvestre - ninguem mora ai

 Aun Johnsen
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17. juni 2013, at 15:49, Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Pessoal,

 Estou passando adiante um problema apontado por um colaborador
 uruguaio sobre relações de fronteira na borda entre Brasil e Guiana
 Francesa. Ele corrigiu um problema lá mas disse que há outros com
 fronteiras com admin_level 4 ou 8. Alguém quer verificar?

 http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=multipolygonlon=-60.33023lat=4.37133zoom=9overlays=invalid_geometry_hull,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes

 Ele disse que seria necessário ter conhecimento da fronteiras para
 consertar. Sei que uma boa fonte para fronteiras entre países é o LNCC
 (http://info.lncc.br). Para as estaduais e municipais talvez seja
 melhor alguém que mora no lugar ou que tem acesso aos dados oficiais
 verifique.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: muralito m-360508-de9...@messages.openstreetmap.org
 Date: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM
 Subject: [OpenStreetMap] Re: Brasil-Guyana border was broken
 To: fernando.treb...@gmail.com


 Hi Fernando Trebien,

 muralito has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the subject
 Re: Brasil-Guyana border was broken:

 ==

 Sure, yesterday I also fixed some borders in RS.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16569574
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16569483
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16567334
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16567278 but there are
 others border relations broken that cannot be fixed without knowing
 the real border.

 I found them with OSM Inspector.
 http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=multipolygonlon=-54.00073lat=-29.38792zoom=7overlays=invalid_geometry_hull,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes

 (the warnings showed today are from data 2013-06-14 and still didn't
 show my corrections)

 Regards, M.

 On 2013-06-17 15:29:36 UTC Fernando Trebien wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks for the help. If you wish you can fix the other borders as
 well, the Brazilian community will be glad :D I'll tell them about
 these issues but I think there's nobody mapping that remote area yet.
 Did you find out about this with Keep Right?

 On 2013-06-15 14:51:35 UTC muralito wrote:

 Fernando:

 Brasi-Guyana border was broken, probably by RCCaleffi. I closed the
 admin_level=2 ring in the node
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/565262437 but I didn't adjust
 the border. There are also some borders of admin_level 4 and 8 broken
 in the same area.

 ¿Could you or someone in BR project check it and contact the user?

 Regards, M.

 ==

 You can also read the message at
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/360508 and you can reply at
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/360508


 --
 Fernando Trebien
 +55 (51) 9962-5409

 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law)
 The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law)

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The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law)
The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law)

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