Re: [Talk-ca] About OpenStreetMap

2009-01-09 Thread SteveC
I really don't have time to do your homework for you, but maybe  
someone on talk-ca@ or newbies@ will help you.

Best

Steve


On 6 Jan 2009, at 18:33, Nyaladzani Nkhwanana wrote:
 Hi Steve,

 My name is Nyaladzani Nkhwanana, a Masters student at the university  
 of New Brunswick, Fredericton, Canada. I am currently undertaking a  
 research (Thesis) on assessing credibility on volunteered geographic  
 information. Im interested in how openstreetmap works, e.g. The  
 trust algorithms you use ( I see you have classes of users,  
 administrators, to new users), I want to know how this rankings are  
 archieved.
 Also I am interested in how you validate the contributed data, who  
 has the final say and also how you get to ban users contributing  
 wrong information. Please if you can prepare this in a document that  
 will be great, thanks.

 Basically I am a fan of OpenStreetMap work, Im a citizen of  
 Botswana, Southern Africa. If you can check it out you will find  
 that there is very little contributed there. As I complete my  
 studies end of this year I hope to be of assist for the benefit of  
 users back home.

 -- 
 Nyaladzani Jairo Nkhwanana
 807 Burden Street
 Fredericton, NB
 E3B 4C5
 Canada
 Home: (+1506) 455 0508
 Office: (+1506) 447 3259
 Mobile (+1506) 292 5214


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Re: [Talk-ca] About OpenStreetMap

2009-01-09 Thread Richard Weait
 On 6 Jan 2009, at 18:33, Nyaladzani Nkhwanana wrote:
  Hi Steve,
 
  My name is Nyaladzani Nkhwanana, a Masters student at the university  
  of New Brunswick, Fredericton, Canada. I am currently undertaking a  
  research (Thesis) on assessing credibility on volunteered geographic  
  information. Im interested in how openstreetmap works, e.g. The  
  trust algorithms you use ( I see you have classes of users,  
  administrators, to new users), I want to know how this rankings are  
  archieved.
  Also I am interested in how you validate the contributed data, who  
  has the final say and also how you get to ban users contributing  
  wrong information. Please if you can prepare this in a document that  
  will be great, thanks.
 
  Basically I am a fan of OpenStreetMap work, Im a citizen of  
  Botswana, Southern Africa. If you can check it out you will find  
  that there is very little contributed there. As I complete my  
  studies end of this year I hope to be of assist for the benefit of  
  users back home.

Dear Nyaladzani Nkhwanana,

I'm an OpenStreetMap enthusiast in Toronto and I'd be pleased to discuss
this with you in detail on your next trip to Toronto.  

In short, I think that you are wrong about OpenStreetMap user classes
and the existence of a trust algorithm.  All OpenStreetMap data
contributors are equal.  

Some contributors perform additional functions that are not shared, like
administration of mailing lists and servers.  Those tasks require an
additional level of trust.  Those tasks are unrelated to their data
contributions.  

Data is validated by the community and problems with the data can be
raised by any community member.  I'm unaware of any formal organization
to this data validation.  It happens according to the interest and
available effort of individual contributors.  

In OpenStreetMap we like to think that the final say is held by what
is observed at the location.  If a street sign is mis-spelled on the
sign, that mis-spelling should be deliberately placed in the OSM data
base.  Our contributors in Germany did this, then reported the
mis-spellings and other anomalies to the municipality, who then
corrected the signs.  

Very few users have been banned from OpenStreetMap.  While not a
hard-and-fast policy, what has happened in past is this.  When unusual
edits are noticed by a community member, they can contact the editor by
email and discuss the unusual edit.  This generally leads to a
discussion of what was intended, and often a newer user is informed of
accepted practises in OpenStreetMap.  Most unusual edits are this sort
of accident, rather than something unsavoury.  Enforcement is provided
in the form of peer information.  

Issues that are not resolved satisfactorily by discussion between
community members can be referred to the OpenStreetMap Foundation for
further action.  The Foundation members can recommend banning if
appropriate.  

You should stay in touch with the OSM mailing lists when you start
sharing your enthusiasm for OpenStreetMap when you get back home.  In
the interim, why don't you meet with some other local mappers at UNB for
a mapping party?  You'll all learn very quickly from each other, and
enjoy your mapping together.  It looks like you'll be able to make very
noticeable contributions in Fredericton, and even just around campus.  

Best regards,
Richard


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Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-newbies] About OpenStreetMap

2009-01-09 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/1/9 SteveC st...@asklater.com:
 I really don't have time to do your homework for you, but maybe
 someone on talk-ca@ or newbies@ will help you.

 Best

 Steve


 On 6 Jan 2009, at 18:33, Nyaladzani Nkhwanana wrote:
 Hi Steve,

 My name is Nyaladzani Nkhwanana, a Masters student at the university
 of New Brunswick, Fredericton, Canada. I am currently undertaking a
 research (Thesis) on assessing credibility on volunteered geographic
 information. Im interested in how openstreetmap works, e.g. The
 trust algorithms you use ( I see you have classes of users,
 administrators, to new users), I want to know how this rankings are
 archieved.

We have nobody that specifically administers the data, we have server
administrators who handle the servers.

 Also I am interested in how you validate the contributed data, who
 has the final say and also how you get to ban users contributing
 wrong information. Please if you can prepare this in a document that
 will be great, thanks.

Those who know the area validate contributions, if there's nobody in
the area, the vandalism may go unnoticed. We essentially have no
methods for detection yet, but we've not yet particularly required
them - there have been a couple of examples in the UK, but both have
been spotted relatively quickly.
There's some quite interesting stuff in the mailing list archives -
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Alists.openstreetmap.org+vandalismie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficialclient=firefox-a

There is no policy yet (as far as I know) for banning users. I'm
guessing it's handled on a case by case basis, I am also not aware for
account bans due to map vandalism, there have been some account
deletions of those that purposefully spam the user diaries though.

 Basically I am a fan of OpenStreetMap work, Im a citizen of
 Botswana, Southern Africa. If you can check it out you will find
 that there is very little contributed there. As I complete my
 studies end of this year I hope to be of assist for the benefit of
 users back home.

 --
 Nyaladzani Jairo Nkhwanana
 807 Burden Street
 Fredericton, NB
 E3B 4C5
 Canada
 Home: (+1506) 455 0508
 Office: (+1506) 447 3259
 Mobile (+1506) 292 5214


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[Talk-ca] NHN lake of the woods

2009-01-09 Thread Samuel Dyck
Hi

It looks like the NHN data is flawed because of the fact that the Lake of the 
Woods passes through the US. I will continue with mapping as normal.

I notice that I am not the only one mapping the lake. I pay much more attention 
to detail than others. Is that okay?

Sam



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