[Talk-ca] Determining The Identity Of Features

2011-02-11 Thread Chris Bruce

Hi there,

I've been doing a bit of mapping for the project in the UK, adding some 
roads and trails generally from my area of mid-Wales. We have a bit of a 
copyright problem with "naming" features in the UK that we have actually 
surveyed. You can see the question and the responses on this link: 
http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/1286/determining-the-identity-of-features. 
The government is being a bit more open and has released some data but 
there seems to be some discussion about a possible conflict between its 
licence and the OSM licence.


I'm in Canada for a while and thought I'd map some trails while I'm here 
per your WikiProject Canada page. I'm hiking in Provincial Parks and 
National Parks in BC at the moment. I guess there will also be Regional 
Parks. At the trailhead there are generally maps naming the trails and 
features. Having hiked and tracklogged the trail am I permitted to 
"name" the trail or feature in OSM from the information found at the 
trailheads? (Or do I ask somebody who looks at the sign at the trailhead 
and then tells me?!!!?)


Also I'm aware that NRCan has released a huge amount of data for use. 
Can I similarly "name" features from information obtained from those 
sources, e.g. the Topo tiffs?


The reason I ask here is that I know that you guys (authorities!) seem 
somewhat open about copyright licensing and the uses to which official 
cartographic data is put and some guidelines for me would be great.


Thanks for your time...


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[Talk-ca] Simplifying CanVec imports

2011-02-11 Thread Samuel Longiaru
Good Morning Everyone,

For the past couple of weeks I have been importing CanVec data into an
area southwest of Kamloops.  There was very little (if any) existing OSM
data in the area.  I've gotten into a bit of a rhythm, merging and
stitching all of 92I07 and about half of 92I10 but started becoming
concerned about the high data density, particularly associated with
streams in the area.  Most import files at the level of 92 I 07.0.0 for
example, are runnning 10-15k nodes.  At that rate, that is somewhat near
200,000 nodes for an area at the level of 92I07.  Yikes!  I guess the
question in my mind is just how many data do we want to import at this
level and what are the practical implications for server processing and
overload.  I expect that this level would be fairly consistent across
most of Western Canada. Even now, I haven't been able to call up a
complete map in the openstreet.org view tab for the past 4 or 5 days...
25-50% of the map being covered with "... more OSM coming soon" tiles.

I looked at the Simplify Way function in JOSM and applying it to just
the water data, have been able to eliminate 5-8k nodes from each file,
thereby cutting the data in nearly half.  I really don't see any
significant degradation in the map quality as a result.  Without
simplifying, the data nodes in some places are incredibly (and
undeservedly ) dense.  The only discussion I've been able to find on the
simplify tool is some rather old discussion that took place during
development.  

So just wondering if simplifying these data is a reasonable approach.
Right now, I am going back to the imported areas, calling them up from
OSM, simplifying the water, and re-uploading the simplified data.  In
the future, I will just simplify in JOSM before uploading the file in
the first place.  Anyway, does anyone have any issues with my approach
here?  Is it worth simplifying  or am I being overly concerned about
data density and its longer term implications?

Thanks,

Sam Longiaru
Kamloops, BC 

 
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[Talk-ca] local OSM groups

2011-02-11 Thread Richard Weait
Hi all,

Matthias Meißer has made it easier to find a local OSM group.  The
German OSM community has had a map of local groups for quite a while.
Matthias has extended that tool to work on a global scale. Here is how
it works.

1) Local groups add a local group template to their wiki page.  This
should be a place wiki page for that area.  Fill in the details on the
template.
2) The local user group bot collects the template data from the wiki
once a day or so.
3) User groups appear on the map with link information to their
authoritative source.

This works if you are organizing your local group on the OSM wiki, on
Facebook or Meetup or elsewhere[1], but allows everybody to go to one
source to find all local groups.  That's good.  But it only works if
you have added a template for your local group.

So go add a template for your group!  ;-)

The German map with all of the German local groups to envy, is here.
http://www.openstreetmap.de/

The template information is here.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:User_group

The new global OSM group map is here.
http://ikaria.informatik.uni-rostock.de/mm337/osm/usergroups/

And a minimal page example using the local group template plus the
place template, is here.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Waterloo_region



[1] These external links are not yet displayed, but that bug has been
reported and is being fixed Real Soon Now.

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