[Talk-ca] What should a Canadian style map look like?

2011-09-12 Thread Richard Weait
Dear All,

Just brain-storming, so let's have suggestions without debate for now.
 What should the OSM data look like when styled for Canadians?  Just
some quick ideas that appeal to me:

- highway marker shields like 401, highway of heroes, Yellowhead, etc.
- fewer road colors.
- render cues about road surface so I can tell gravel roads.
- make long-distance roads in the north render somehow.

What else?  Big ideas, small ideas?

Which points of interest should be more prominent? Hockey and curling
rinks?  Trim this post and reply with your ideas.

There is a similar thread starting on the talk-us list as well.
Perhaps we can all play together on our continent.

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Re: [Talk-ca] What should a Canadian style map look like?

2011-09-12 Thread Matthew Buchanan
I think passenger railways like VIA rail, GO, AMT, etc should be rendered 
prominently. Most of the web maps are too auto-centric. How about the Trans 
Canada trail, National vs Provincial parks?

I'm not a fan of roads rendered in green.

Matthew Buchanan


On 2011-09-12, at 3:32 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:

 Dear All,
 
 Just brain-storming, so let's have suggestions without debate for now.
 What should the OSM data look like when styled for Canadians?  Just
 some quick ideas that appeal to me:
 
 - highway marker shields like 401, highway of heroes, Yellowhead, etc.
 - fewer road colors.
 - render cues about road surface so I can tell gravel roads.
 - make long-distance roads in the north render somehow.
 
 What else?  Big ideas, small ideas?
 
 Which points of interest should be more prominent? Hockey and curling
 rinks?  Trim this post and reply with your ideas.
 
 There is a similar thread starting on the talk-us list as well.
 Perhaps we can all play together on our continent.
 
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Re: [Talk-ca] What should a Canadian style map look like?

2011-09-12 Thread Jonathan Crowe
I agree with most of these suggestions. OSM should render in a manner
familiar to Canadian map readers. Road colours should be limited to indicate
primary/trunk and secondary/county roads (in practice, that should probably
mean no distinction between highway=primary and highway=trunk -- like
Matthew, I don't think green works well, especially in a heavily forested
country). Road surface should be indicated. Add to that another: toll
highways, which are usually indicated on North American maps.

The question of long-distance northern roads is a question of information
density. At low zooms, the Canadian map can seem pretty empty if we follow
rules appropriate to higher density countries (Guten Tag, Deutschland). Is
there a way of changing the rendering threshold for, say, towns so that
empty parts of the map would have smaller centres rendered?

Generally speaking, I find too much of interest disappears when you zoom
out. Points of interest (historic, tourism) only really appear at the
highest zoom levels, and that's less useful in places where the point of
interest is outside the nearest town (e.g., the Royal Tyrrell Museum).

As for rendering things like railways and trails, that hinges on the
question of what the map is used for -- i.e., why people are using the map.
No one map can cover everything at once: a road map makes a lousy cycling
map, and so on. That's where layers come in. But it'll be hard to figure out
what information is important without some idea of why people are using the
map -- we're still in building mode at this point, I think, so the answer is
still to come.

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Jonathan Crowe
http://www.jonathancrowe.net
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