Re: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries

2012-01-17 Thread Gordon Dewis
Disclaimer: I am speaking for myself and not for my employer. Especially
not for my employer.


I just had a look at the 2011 Census boundary file reference guide (
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/92-160-g/92-160-g2011001-eng.pdf) and it
appears that there's a new license. IANAL, but it looks like a source
statement would have to be displayed whenever a census boundary or
derivative is used.

But going back to the original question of using Statistics Canada data for
city boundaries, I'm not sure this is the best idea. Census boundary files
are based on Census geographies. Depending on the geography, you could have
boundaries that coincide with municipal boundaries in some cases, but not
in others. For example, census metropolitan areas (CMAs) do not necessarily
respect municipal boundaries. The CMA Toronto, for example, do not really
resemble the City of Toronto's boundaries. But if you use something like a
CSD (census subdivision) then you have boundaries that more closely match
municipal boundaries, at least for larger cities.

I haven't had a chance to talk to the licensing people, yet.

  --G


On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Bégin, Daniel <
daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca> wrote:

> Bonjour,
>
> About city boundaries, Canadian Geopolitical Boundaries are available
> under geobase web site...
> http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/admin/index.html
>
> Furthermore, we are working on integrating Geopolitical Boundaries
> information in Canvec.osm for the next release.
>
> Hope it helps,
> Daniel
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gordon Dewis [mailto:gor...@pinetree.org]
> Sent: January 17, 2012 08:59
> To: Olivier Hill; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries
>
> Disclaimer: Speaking strictly for myself and not the government
> statistical agency I work for.
>
> Hi...
>
> I believe this came up a year or two ago and that the answer at the time
> was no. But, I will ask the licensing people at work and see what they say.
>
> Cheers!
>
>  --G
> --Original Message--
> From: Olivier Hill
> To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries
> Sent: Jan 17, 2012 08:53
>
> Hello all,
>
> Nice meeting some of you in the Toronto Meetup yesterday.
>
> For those that remember, I asked a question about city boundaries and
> sources of data.
>
> Can the data from StatCan be used in OSM? I'm referring to this product
> for example:
>
>
> http://geodepot.statcan.gc.ca/2006/040120011618150421032019/02152114040118250609120519_05-eng.jsp
>
> Best,
> Olivier
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Re: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries

2012-01-17 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Bonjour,

About city boundaries, Canadian Geopolitical Boundaries are available under 
geobase web site...
http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/admin/index.html 

Furthermore, we are working on integrating Geopolitical Boundaries information 
in Canvec.osm for the next release.

Hope it helps,
Daniel 

-Original Message-
From: Gordon Dewis [mailto:gor...@pinetree.org] 
Sent: January 17, 2012 08:59
To: Olivier Hill; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries

Disclaimer: Speaking strictly for myself and not the government statistical 
agency I work for.

Hi...

I believe this came up a year or two ago and that the answer at the time was 
no. But, I will ask the licensing people at work and see what they say.

Cheers!

  --G
--Original Message--
From: Olivier Hill
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries
Sent: Jan 17, 2012 08:53

Hello all,

Nice meeting some of you in the Toronto Meetup yesterday.

For those that remember, I asked a question about city boundaries and sources 
of data.

Can the data from StatCan be used in OSM? I'm referring to this product for 
example:

http://geodepot.statcan.gc.ca/2006/040120011618150421032019/02152114040118250609120519_05-eng.jsp

Best,
Olivier
--
http://www.olivierhill.ca/

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Re: [Talk-ca] OSM meetups GTA

2012-01-17 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Richard Weait  wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> There are several upcoming OSM events in the Southern Ontario area.
>
> Tomorrow Monday, 16 Jan 2012: Toronto

Okay, that was awesome.  :-)

Thank you to each of the attendees last night.  We had a great mix of
"regulars" and "hopefully soon to be regulars".

Some conversations related to links that follow:

Ian has a new book on Android Development coming out. Preorder:
http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/Android-Cookbook-Ian-F-Darwin/9781449388416-item.html

See where you mapped.  Heatmaps:
http://wdye.osm-tools.org/
http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/

Changes to our user pages.  You can add other users as your friends
through your OSM account.  Recently added are the ability to browse
the recent changesets and diary entries of your friends.
Browse changesets by your friends - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/friends
Browse diary entries by your friends -
http://www.openstreetmap.org/diary/friends

Washington DC OSM hack weekend [be there or be square.]:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DC_Hack_weekend_Feb_2012
http://osmhackweekenddc2012.eventbrite.com/

You can add GeoBase road name tiles as a background layer.  Handy for
mapping and re-mapping:
1) in josm, >> edit >> preferences >> WMS/TMS
2) add a name like "GeoBase road names"
3) add a service URL like
http://ows.geobase.ca/wms/geobase_en?service=wms and click Get Layers
4) select all four layers in NRN Street Names and all four layers in
NRN Network.
5) Click okay

Now, go mapping.  You can add the Bing imagery layer, AND the geobase
road names layer, then lower the geobase road names layer
transparency, so that you can see both the aerial imagery and road
names at the same time.

Thanks again to all of the attendees who made Toronto Mappy Hour so
much fun last night.

Tonight, Mappy Hour (Coffee Klatch) is in Cambridge.  See you there.  :-)

Best regards,
Richard

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Re: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries

2012-01-17 Thread Gordon Dewis
Disclaimer: Speaking strictly for myself and not the government statistical 
agency I work for.

Hi...

I believe this came up a year or two ago and that the answer at the time was 
no. But, I will ask the licensing people at work and see what they say.

Cheers!

  --G
--Original Message--
From: Olivier Hill
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries
Sent: Jan 17, 2012 08:53

Hello all,

Nice meeting some of you in the Toronto Meetup yesterday.

For those that remember, I asked a question about city boundaries and
sources of data.

Can the data from StatCan be used in OSM? I'm referring to this
product for example:

http://geodepot.statcan.gc.ca/2006/040120011618150421032019/02152114040118250609120519_05-eng.jsp

Best,
Olivier
-- 
http://www.olivierhill.ca/

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Re: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries

2012-01-17 Thread Tyler Gunn
> For those that remember, I asked a question about city boundaries and
> sources of data.
> Can the data from StatCan be used in OSM? I'm referring to this
> product for example:
> http://geodepot.statcan.gc.ca/2006/040120011618150421032019/02152114040118250609120519_05-eng.jsp
> Best,
> Olivier

As far as I'm aware, the Stats Canada boundaries are valid to use:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Statistics_Canada_%28StatsCAN%29

I used some in the past in Manitoba, but the boundaries were not
granular enough to reflect towns and smaller areas within Manitoba, so
I ended up using another source.

Tyler

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[Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries

2012-01-17 Thread Olivier Hill
Hello all,

Nice meeting some of you in the Toronto Meetup yesterday.

For those that remember, I asked a question about city boundaries and
sources of data.

Can the data from StatCan be used in OSM? I'm referring to this
product for example:

http://geodepot.statcan.gc.ca/2006/040120011618150421032019/02152114040118250609120519_05-eng.jsp

Best,
Olivier
-- 
http://www.olivierhill.ca/

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