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"Confusion Corner" reminded me of "The Basketweave" on the 401 in Toronto. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.71829&lon=-79.50048&zoom=17&layers=M Here a mapper has tagged the node as an attraction. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Sam Dyck wrote: > Actually both of the highway locations I cited are not from any > database, but reflect the local names for the intersection. > > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
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Actually both of the highway locations I cited are not from any database, but reflect the local names for the intersection. On 2/23/12, Gordon Dewis wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Sam Dyck wrote: > >> I beg to differ, the OSM wiki states "The place=locality tag can be >> used to name unpopulated place which is not associated with any >> feature to which such a tag could be associated." >> >> By default many small or unpopulated places are tagged as localities >> in canvec. When I preformed the upload along a remote northern rail >> line, I checked the community against a Government of Manitoba list >> and the census to determine if a place was populated. We do need some >> sort of tagging to indicated the railway significance, but I have used >> place=locality on road locations in both urban and rural environments >> as well (http://osm.org/go/Wpz83vHj2-- and >> http://osm.org/go/Wp5TRnmtN--). >> > > *Disclaimer*: *I am speaking only for myself and not in any official > capacity for my employer, Statistics Canada.* > > When I think "locality", I tend to think of a place, populated or > otherwise, that has been designated by some level of government, but that's > because of where I work. :) > > Statistics Canada had a concept called a "locality" that was used up to the > 2006 Census. In 2011 it has been merged with "place name", the definition > of which is "selected named of active and retired geographic areas as well > as nams from the Canadadian Geographical Names Database. Place names > include names of census divisions (municipalities), designated places and > population centres, as well as the names of some local places." The Census > Dictionary also notes that "prior to 2011, the term 'locality' was used to > describe historical place names, such as former census subdivisions > (municipalities), designated places and urban areas." (ref: > http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2011/ref/dict/geo033-eng.cfm) > > I seem to recall from when I worked in the Geography Division here that > localities and place names were from "official sources" (i.e. the various > levels of government). Building on that, named points along a railway would > not be considered localities because they are operational reference points > designated by the railway operator, much like IFR intersections used in the > aviation world. > > Using place=locality on road locations, on the other hand, would make sense > because of who designated the name. > > As I mentioned above, *I am speaking only for myself and not in any > official capacity for my employer, Statistics Canada*. > > Cheers! > > --G* > * > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Sam Dyck wrote: > I beg to differ, the OSM wiki states "The place=locality tag can be > used to name unpopulated place which is not associated with any > feature to which such a tag could be associated." > > By default many small or unpopulated places are tagged as localities > in canvec. When I preformed the upload along a remote northern rail > line, I checked the community against a Government of Manitoba list > and the census to determine if a place was populated. We do need some > sort of tagging to indicated the railway significance, but I have used > place=locality on road locations in both urban and rural environments > as well (http://osm.org/go/Wpz83vHj2-- and > http://osm.org/go/Wp5TRnmtN--). > *Disclaimer*: *I am speaking only for myself and not in any official capacity for my employer, Statistics Canada.* When I think "locality", I tend to think of a place, populated or otherwise, that has been designated by some level of government, but that's because of where I work. :) Statistics Canada had a concept called a "locality" that was used up to the 2006 Census. In 2011 it has been merged with "place name", the definition of which is "selected named of active and retired geographic areas as well as nams from the Canadadian Geographical Names Database. Place names include names of census divisions (municipalities), designated places and population centres, as well as the names of some local places." The Census Dictionary also notes that "prior to 2011, the term 'locality' was used to describe historical place names, such as former census subdivisions (municipalities), designated places and urban areas." (ref: http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2011/ref/dict/geo033-eng.cfm) I seem to recall from when I worked in the Geography Division here that localities and place names were from "official sources" (i.e. the various levels of government). Building on that, named points along a railway would not be considered localities because they are operational reference points designated by the railway operator, much like IFR intersections used in the aviation world. Using place=locality on road locations, on the other hand, would make sense because of who designated the name. As I mentioned above, *I am speaking only for myself and not in any official capacity for my employer, Statistics Canada*. Cheers! --G* * ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
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Pierre I beg to differ, the OSM wiki states "The place=locality tag can be used to name unpopulated place which is not associated with any feature to which such a tag could be associated." By default many small or unpopulated places are tagged as localities in canvec. When I preformed the upload along a remote northern rail line, I checked the community against a Government of Manitoba list and the census to determine if a place was populated. We do need some sort of tagging to indicated the railway significance, but I have used place=locality on road locations in both urban and rural environments as well (http://osm.org/go/Wpz83vHj2-- and http://osm.org/go/Wp5TRnmtN--). Sam ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
