Re: [Talk-ca] Fredericton WMS Offset

2013-01-07 Thread Connors, Bernie (SNB)
Nicholas,

I have noticed your work adding numerous building footprints in 
the Fredericton area. It's great to see somebody taking on this large task.  It 
has been my experience that the older Bing imagery was better aligned than the 
current Bing imagery in the Fredericton area.  I have been mapping in the 
Fredericton area since 2007 and the older Bing imagery aligned nicely with my 
GPS traces.  It is best to align the new Bing Imagery with OSM streets and GPS 
traces.  The misalignment of the Bing imagery varies across the Fredericton 
area so I would readjust the alignment of the Bing Imagery as you move to new 
neighborhoods.  It is my practice to always adjust the Bing Imagery each time I 
start a new Potlatch 2 session and readjust when I move to new areas of the 
Fredericton region.

This map I built at arcgis.com may help shed some light on the 
alignment issue.  
http://www.arcgis.com/apps/Compare/Configure/index.html?appid=c0f0ca089e23457082e997dceea0061b

Cheers,
Bernie.
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New Maryland, NB

From: nicholas ingalls [mailto:nicholas.inga...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 2013-01-01 19:23
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-ca] Fredericton WMS Offset

Hello all,

I've been recently drawing all of the buildings in Fredericton in preparation 
for going around and collecting the addresses. I'd noticed that all the 
buildings in Fredericton were offset. Naturally I assumed that the original 
mappers in Fredericton had done this offset on purpose. I recently tested this 
against GPS traces and found that the offset was incorrect based on the traces 
I collected. I'm now assuming that this data was traced from the old Yahoo 
imagery and current users continue to offset the Bing WMS to match the data 
traced from the Yahoo imagery.

I am proposing that we shift the data back to match the Bing WMS and the gps 
traces. Does anyone else from the Fredericton area have any comments, or can 
explain the offset?

Cheers,
ingalls
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fredericton WMS Offset

2013-01-07 Thread Connors, Bernie (SNB)
If you want to check the accuracy of your GPX files in New Brunswick you can 
drag and drop them on this map I created at ArcGIS.com:

http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=71d0cc7deebd4b359a14ea140d63d6f4

As you zoom in the property lines and civic addresses will be added to the air 
photo map.  All of this data is published the government of New Brunswick (aka 
me and my co-workers).  The accuracy of this data should exceed the accuracy of 
the consumer grade GPS receiver.  You can read more about adding GPX files to 
this map in the ArcGIS.com help pages:

http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/arcgisonline/#/About_CSV_TXT_and_GPX_files/010q008v00/

In the Fredericton we are displaying the 2008 air photos captured by the City 
of Fredericton.  They are not as current as the Bing Imagery in Potlatch but 
the alignment is excellent.  The City of Fredericton acquired new imagery in 
2012 and we will be updating this map as soon as we have the time and resources 
(some time in 2013).

Bernie.
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-Original Message-
From: Andrew Buck [mailto:andrew.r.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 2013-01-02 15:59
To: nicholas ingalls
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fredericton WMS Offset

Hi,

I am not from the area, but I did want to post my 2 cents about this issue.  
Your idea of how the offset got started sounds correct.  I would caution you 
though that GPS traces can be offset, too, due to atmospheric effects.  To 
really get a good trace with no offset you need to do a few traces on different 
days of the same road (or path is better since it is narrow) and through an 
area with few buildings around as these can cause offsets, too.

Other than those issues, if you trust your traces then I see no reason not to 
fix the offset, but as I said make sure your traces are good first.

-AndrewBuck

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Re: [Talk-ca] Canadienne ou américaine, cette île?

2013-01-07 Thread Connors, Bernie (SNB)
Here is my 2 cents worth on the international maritime boundary issue in the 
Gulf of Maine:

· The Canadian Coast Guard has operated navigational aids on Machias 
Seal Island for a very long time

· I heard in the past that a US citizen in Maine holds a deed to 
Machias Seal Island – but that does not dictate sovereignty – if that were the 
case Canada would have sovereignty over many condos and vacation homes in 
Florida ;)

· As a GIS manager working in the government of New Brunswick I always 
showed Machias Seal Island as being part of New Brunswick when I produced maps.

· The Province of New Brunswick Included Machias Seal Island in several 
map products it has produced over the past few decades.

Bernie.
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bernie.conn...@unb.camailto:bernie.conn...@unb.ca
New Maryland, NB

From: Bruno Remy [mailto:bremy.qc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 2012-12-23 17:20
To: Harald Kliems
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canadienne ou américaine, cette île?


Good news : we're up-to-date.
Let's stay tuned and follow what both gov. will decide! ;-)

Bruno Remy
Le 2012-12-23 16:15, Harald Kliems 
kli...@gmail.commailto:kli...@gmail.com a écrit :
I saw the coverage in the Gazette this morning and checked the border.
We indeed have border=disputed in the database, and it has been like
that for quite some time. Nominatim will return the island twice, one
with USA, one with Canada as the country.

 Harald.

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Bruno Remy 
bremy.qc...@gmail.commailto:bremy.qc...@gmail.com wrote:
 (english message will follow)

 À suivre de près:

 La Presse souligne un débat Géopolitique aux frontières du Maine(US) et du
 Nouveau-Brunswick: Le temps pour nous de vérifier la frontiète
 administrative ici!

 --

 Please follow this:
 LaPresse published a geo-politic debate on administrative bondaries
 beetween Maine(US) and New-Brunswick(CA).
 Time for us to check out the administrative bondaries around here!

 http://www.lapresse.ca/le-soleil/actualites/politique/201212/23/01-4606481-canadienne-ou-americaine-cette-ile.php

 Bruno Remy


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