[Talk-ca] Statistics Canada

[Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)]

John and colleagues,
Many thanks for offering your help. We will definitely need it! We are trying 
to develop an efficient way to import municipal open data (building footprint) 
for the municipality of Ottawa and Gatineau. We are in discussion with both 
municipalities and based on OSM previous experience we are try to find an 
effective way for doing this (the previous message of David MacNeil was very 
useful at this regard).
We will definitely ask for your help for this undertaking.

Bjenk and Alessandro

Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l'exploration et 
l'intégration de données (LEID)
Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les 
entreprises
Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
(343) 998-3004



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Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

[Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)]

Hi James,

We are working in partnerships with both municipalities of Ottawa and Gatineau. 
So far, Ottawa has given us two files. One is a large buildings file available 
through their open data portal. It contains about 16 000 building footprints.  
The other is a larger file with over 300 000 buildings in it. That one contains 
footprints that are not on OSM after a quick look through.

John mentioned that the best way to make it available is through the TB open 
data portal so I am going to look into that.

We are talking with Gatineau and they will join the project. I will give 
updates on how this is going.


Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD

Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et 
l’intégration de données (LEID)
Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les 
entreprises
Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
(343) 998-3004



From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: July-18-16 4:58 PM
To: Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) 
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada


Should be pretty easy on the Gatineau sode as all the address points are there, 
as for Ottawa, not so much until they decide to change their license

On Jul 18, 2016 11:28 AM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" 
> wrote:
Dear members of the Board of Directors,

My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and 
Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.

I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada initiated 
a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of data 
crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.

We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting contributors to 
crowdsource information on non-residential buildings (footprints, addresses and 
simple building attributes). The pilot project will focus on the 
Ottawa-Gatineau region.

We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people from 
five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the municipalities of Ottawa 
and Gatineau.

In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke with Paul Norman. 
At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We have done quite a 
lot of background research and planning since then (although much learning 
remains to be done). The preliminary idea has evolved in a proof of concept 
proposal and, from there, into the current project.

Earlier this month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local 
(Canada/Ottawa) OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in the 
coming months by engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca.

This pilot project is a major innovative undertaking for our Agency. There are 
a multitude of aspects that we need to assess and learn about (including the IT 
dimension, communications,  legal aspects, etc.).

For this reason, there is also a lot of excitement about the project and much 
curiosity from senior management. We know that crowdsourcing is a reality but, 
as far as I know, there has been no other attempt to assess its potential from 
the perspective of a national statistical office.

One of our Assistant Chief Statisticians, in particular, who is championing the 
innovation projects at Statistics Canada, has a keen interest in this project. 
At some point, we would like to have an “institutional” meeting between 
Statistics Canada and OSM (although I am not quite sure in which shape and form 
this can take place). I am open to your suggestions.

I am copying my colleague Bjenk Ellefsen, who is part of our team and who will 
follow-up on most of the communication with the OSM community on Talk-Ca.

I look forward to hearing from you and to engaging the OSM community on this 
project.

I will soon write more about the project!

Regards,



Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD

Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et 
l’intégration de données (LEID)
Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les 
entreprises
Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
(343) 998-3004




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Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping turn restrictions in Canada

[Andrew MacKinnon]

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Manohar Erikipati  wrote:
> Hey there,
> Today we mapped 76 turn restrictions in Canada. You can follow the project
> tracker here(https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/213) and get involved.
> We have across signage with text we are not so sure about, it would great if
> canadian mappers clarify us on these.
> 1(https://d1cuyjsrcm0gby.cloudfront.net/4ZA3OT0nHoDQ7F7JILG-pg/thumb-2048.jpg),
> 2(https://d1cuyjsrcm0gby.cloudfront.net/IYi6WjwOQDnPW1HTTGyh8A/thumb-2048.jpg).

At the first intersection, the text in French means "Wait for arrow to
turn left" which you can probably ignore. There is also a no U turn
sign.

At the second intersection, there is no left turn at certain times. I
think it says Monday to Friday 8am-10am and 3pm-7pm (Lun-Ven 8h-10h,
15h-19h in French) but it is hard to read. There is also no U turn
except authorized vehicles.

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[Talk-ca] New project at Statistics Canada / Nouveau projet à Statistique Canada

[Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)]

Hello everyone,

Thanks for the many feedback. We really look forward to working with the OSM 
community.
As mentioned by some, working with an online community is a new undertaking for 
our agency. There is a lot of learning involved (for us) but we are confident 
we can make a valuable contribution.
There are many aspects that we need to learn about and many new dimensions 
(including legal aspects of data sharing). Some mentioned postal codes, but 
there are many legal aspects that an agency like StatCan needs to take into 
accounts. It is a new territory and, to some extent, we are learning by doing.
You have already identified some of our main challenges: tags, imports of 
municipal open data, data quality, etc.
We are trying to tackle each of them, one at a time. And we want to work with 
you to help follow and develop practices and contribute to OSM data in Canada.
Our pilot will be for Ottawa/Gatineau (for logistic and operational reasons, we 
need to limit our focus). But we would be more than happy to coordinate our 
work with other mappers working on other municipalities.
We will follow up on each item, and with regular updates on the project.
Bjenk and Alessandro
Français:
Nous étions impatients de travailler avec la communauté d'OSM et merci de vos 
commentaires.
Quelques-uns d'entre vous l'ont mentionné, travailler avec une communauté en 
ligne est nouveau pour notre agence. Il y a beaucoup à apprendre pour nous mais 
nous sommes confiants de pouvoir contribuer de façon significative.
Il y a plusieurs aspects sur lesquels nous devons apprendre et plusieurs 
nouvelles choses comme les aspects légaux de l'échange de données. Certaines 
ont mentionné les codes postaux mais il y a plusieurs aspects légaux qu'une 
agence telle que StatCan doit prendre en considération. C'est un nouveau 
territoire et, d'une certaine façon, nous apprenons en le faisant.
Vous avez déjà identifié certains de nos défis principaux : les attributs, 
l'importation de données municipales (données ouvertes), la qualité des 
données, etc.
Nous essayons de rencontrer chacun de ces défis un à un. Nous souhaitons 
travailler avec vous afin de suivre et développer les pratiques et contribuer 
aux données d'OSM au Canada.
Notre projet pilote sera pour Ottawa et Gatineau (nous devons limiter la portée 
pour l'instant pour des raisons de logistiques et opérationnelles). Par contre, 
nous serions intéressés à aider et coordonner les efforts de contributeurs qui 
souhaitent inclure d'autres municipalités.
Nous ferons un suivi et des mises à jour constantes sur le projet.
Bjenk et Alessandro
Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l'exploration et 
l'intégration de données (LEID)
Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les 
entreprises
Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
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[Talk-ca] Mapping turn restrictions in Canada

[Manohar Erikipati]

Hey there,
Today we mapped 76 turn restrictions in Canada. You can follow the project
tracker here(https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/213) and get
involved. We have across signage with text we are not so sure about, it
would great if canadian mappers clarify us on these. 1(
https://d1cuyjsrcm0gby.cloudfront.net/4ZA3OT0nHoDQ7F7JILG-pg/thumb-2048.jpg),
2(
https://d1cuyjsrcm0gby.cloudfront.net/IYi6WjwOQDnPW1HTTGyh8A/thumb-2048.jpg
).
Thank you,
Manohar
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