Re: [Talk-ca] Approaching civic government for access to GIS data..

2010-06-22 Thread Sam Vekemans
Cool,
Then i'll hold off on the National Protected Areas file for i bit, and
get the Aboriginal Lands more done.

If anyone finds the admin areas, do share :)
the ontario areas are available, i just havent converted it yet.

Sam

On 6/22/10, Tyler Gunn  wrote:
>
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:19:32 -0700, Sam Vekemans
>  wrote:
>> Cool,
>> ya, its easier to get it done now than in a few months from now.
>
> No doubt; once all the Geobase data floods in this wouldn't be quite so
> easy!!!
>
>> If you find the city boundaries file before i do, feel free to convert
>> it to OSM and make the .osm files available if you can.
>> Im not sure how to tag it, so a 1st run is needed.
>
>
> I have yet to find any city boundaries -- I really would like to get that
> data added at some point.
>
>> Or do the other provinces, i have loaded a few in northern Ontario.
>> So i think the NWT should still be alot of OpenRange.
>
> I got some areas in Nunavut, Sask and Northern Ontario -- I'll venture
> into other areas as I get the time.
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler
>
>
>


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Re: [Talk-ca] Approaching civic government for access to GIS data..

2010-06-22 Thread Tyler Gunn

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:19:32 -0700, Sam Vekemans
 wrote:
> Cool,
> ya, its easier to get it done now than in a few months from now.

No doubt; once all the Geobase data floods in this wouldn't be quite so
easy!!!

> If you find the city boundaries file before i do, feel free to convert
> it to OSM and make the .osm files available if you can.
> Im not sure how to tag it, so a 1st run is needed.


I have yet to find any city boundaries -- I really would like to get that
data added at some point.  
 
> Or do the other provinces, i have loaded a few in northern Ontario.
> So i think the NWT should still be alot of OpenRange.

I got some areas in Nunavut, Sask and Northern Ontario -- I'll venture
into other areas as I get the time.

Thanks,
Tyler



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Re: [Talk-ca] Approaching civic government for access to GIS data..

2010-06-22 Thread Sam Vekemans
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Tyler Gunn  wrote:
>
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:10:32 -0700, Sam Vekemans
>  wrote:
>> Maybe you can help with the Manitoba Protected areas & Aboriginal lands?
>>
>> Sorry, i do have a template, but the new licence just gives me a
> headache.
>> The fact that more data is available to us than we currently are
>> working with, is not a bad problem to have :)
>
> You are right; there is PLENTY of data to still be imported in Winnipeg
> (and Manitoba for that matter).  It only makes sense to work on that data
> before getting ahead of myself to other sources really.
> Winnipeg has a LONG way to go before it's at a state where someone would
> look at it and say, "Wow, what a great map.".  I routinely fix missing
> street names, crossing ways that should connect, and ways that end near a
> road where they should really connect.  Fixing up all this in itself is a
> huge undertaking.
>
> I think for now I'll stick with trying to detail out Winnipeg since I have
> the local knowledge to do my best work here.  However, I'll have to take a
> look at the protected areas and aboriginal lands -- if it's something that
> I don't need local knowledge for I could add it to my list of things to do.
> :)

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NRCan_Protected_Areas#Data
It's a 7 file set covering all of Canada
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mjgdmejnz2z/nrcan_protected_areas7files.zip

They need to be all opened up & just zoom into an area in Manitoba of
the polygon & download the local OSM area to see what exists, and if
its not already in the map, copy/paste it in. :)
For some of them they are big.. so it does take time.   Over on the
#osm-ca IRC user Wbski has finished up the BC areas, so thats 1
province.   Im just working as i go along (virtually across Canada)
and filling in what i can.
For the aboriginal lands, it's a bit harder as the names are all in
CAPS and need to be fixed :)

Slowely but surley it gets done, that's why we croud source :)

Cheers,
Sam

>
> Tyler
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Re: [Talk-ca] Approaching civic government for access to GIS data..

2010-06-22 Thread Tyler Gunn

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:10:32 -0700, Sam Vekemans
 wrote:
> Maybe you can help with the Manitoba Protected areas & Aboriginal lands?
> 
> Sorry, i do have a template, but the new licence just gives me a
headache.
> The fact that more data is available to us than we currently are
> working with, is not a bad problem to have :)

You are right; there is PLENTY of data to still be imported in Winnipeg
(and Manitoba for that matter).  It only makes sense to work on that data
before getting ahead of myself to other sources really.
Winnipeg has a LONG way to go before it's at a state where someone would
look at it and say, "Wow, what a great map.".  I routinely fix missing
street names, crossing ways that should connect, and ways that end near a
road where they should really connect.  Fixing up all this in itself is a
huge undertaking.

I think for now I'll stick with trying to detail out Winnipeg since I have
the local knowledge to do my best work here.  However, I'll have to take a
look at the protected areas and aboriginal lands -- if it's something that
I don't need local knowledge for I could add it to my list of things to do.
:)

Tyler

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Re: [Talk-ca] Approaching civic government for access to GIS data..

2010-06-22 Thread Sam Vekemans
My approach is, build it and they will come.

Have you seen the CanMatrix geoTIFF & CanTopo PDFs?

This digital paper map, includes more features that are not available
in canvec, such as municiple boundaries (and in BC) it includes
backroad logging roads.
These PDFs can be freely traced.

Anyway, the point is, i think is better to fully exhaust the resources
we already have, as there is a TONNE of data available to us.
Once winnipeg sees the top quality map that OSM is becomming, i thing
they would approach the OSM Community.

Anyway, the pdf re-discovery was just in the past few days. Were
chatting about that on #osm-ca IRC.
Cheers,
Sam

On 6/22/10, Tyler Gunn  wrote:
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> Hello,
> I'm considering writing a letter to the civic government here in Winnipeg
> to ask for permission/access to their GIS data.  The aerial imagery alone
> available on their website is a HUGE treasure-trove of information; 20cm
> 2009 aerial imagery!!! :)
>
> Has anyone ever approached the local government in this manner?  If so is
> there any "starting point" letter I could use that someone has?
>
> Thanks!
> Tyler
>
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[Talk-ca] Approaching civic government for access to GIS data..

2010-06-22 Thread Tyler Gunn

Hello,
I'm considering writing a letter to the civic government here in Winnipeg
to ask for permission/access to their GIS data.  The aerial imagery alone
available on their website is a HUGE treasure-trove of information; 20cm
2009 aerial imagery!!! :) 

Has anyone ever approached the local government in this manner?  If so is
there any "starting point" letter I could use that someone has?

Thanks!
Tyler

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