Re: [Talk-ca] Deleting Ways
2008/12/30 Richard Weait > On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 22:52 -0500, Michel Gilbert wrote: > > The new file with boundaries at 500 nodes is ready for an upload. But > > first I have to delete the current ones. > > Dear Michel, > > Bravo. The first run of the border import is a wonderful improvement, > even if imperfect. Thank you for doing it. > > For the re-upload, may I suggest these changes? > > source = "name of your conversion script and version" # then make it > available on the wiki / SVN as GPL? > > created_by = "name of your upload script and version" # then make it > available on the wiki / SVN as GPL? > > nat_ref does not apply in my opinion. OSM expects ref for highway > shields. Use a new tag like geobase:nat_ref = "nat_ref#" so that it is > "namespaced" and does not break other uses of nat_ref. > > Use geobase:uuid = "uuid#" where geobase provides them. I will take your suggestions. I like when people gives good ideas. Right now, I have my two hands deleting the current boundaries. Thanks, Michel > > > Best regards, > Richard > > > > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Deleting Ways
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Richard Degelder wrote: > With your upload we went from just talking to, in > fact, using the GeoBase data that we were given permission to use to > make an improvement within OSM. Your upload was the first visible step > to incorporating the GeoBase data. And the data looked good too! > > Thanks for the work. Indeed... a little push and a shove, and I was able to send Michel over the precipice. We can sit on our hands and talk about what needs to be done, and argue about the minutia, but sooner or later someone has to DO something. The geopolitical boundaries is a big dataset, but also relatively benign... It gives us a little bit of room to learn and play, while not really creating a HUGE controversial impact. The NRN needs to be the set that we make sure gets done right the first time. I suggested using Alberta as a guinea pig, but Michel appears to have done all of Canada. This works out okay, as it gives others exposure to the process as well... It is interesting to see the provincial boundary along the Great Divide finally... although there are some little problems that will need repair. There's a hole in the border, and a section that looks like it's missing some nodes by the Athabasca Glacier. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.381&lon=-117.422&zoom=9&layers=B000FTF Like any OSM addition, we'll need to vet all of the GeoBase data that is imported. I still have my usual beef about the rendering rules being set up for the tiny little countries in Europe where a municipal boundary defines an area of a couple square miles. Zoom level 9 is the largest size map you can have and still see the provincial boundary. In Canada, I would have provincial boundaries visible to at least zoom level 4 or even level 3. Same for state boundaries in the USA. Is there a way to override the default rendering rules? It would be good to be able to use the same boundary definition, but be able to have the provincial boundary min zoom level be overridden for areas like Canada. James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Deleting Ways
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 22:52 -0500, Michel Gilbert wrote: > The new file with boundaries at 500 nodes is ready for an upload. But > first I have to delete the current ones. Dear Michel, Bravo. The first run of the border import is a wonderful improvement, even if imperfect. Thank you for doing it. For the re-upload, may I suggest these changes? source = "name of your conversion script and version" # then make it available on the wiki / SVN as GPL? created_by = "name of your upload script and version" # then make it available on the wiki / SVN as GPL? nat_ref does not apply in my opinion. OSM expects ref for highway shields. Use a new tag like geobase:nat_ref = "nat_ref#" so that it is "namespaced" and does not break other uses of nat_ref. Use geobase:uuid = "uuid#" where geobase provides them. Best regards, Richard ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Deleting Ways
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 22:52 -0500, Michel Gilbert wrote: > > > 2008/12/30 Richard Degelder > Michel, > > Are you deleting all of the ways that you loaded with the bulk > upload or > only those that are exceeding the limit. Those geopolitical > boundaries > that consist of only a relatively small number of nodes are > probably > fine to leave within OSM. > > Richard Degelder > > It will be easier to reprocess all of them because I do not have to > manage the updates (nodes to keep and new nodes). Let me know if the > deletions cause you a problem. The new file with boundaries at 500 > nodes is ready for an upload. But first I have to delete the current > ones. > > Michel > > No, they will not cause problems! I am, however, really looking forward to your new upload and having the Geopolitical boundaries within OSM on a permanent basis. With your upload we went from just talking to, in fact, using the GeoBase data that we were given permission to use to make an improvement within OSM. Your upload was the first visible step to incorporating the GeoBase data. And the data looked good too! Thanks for the work. Richard Degelder ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Deleting Ways
2008/12/30 Richard Degelder > Michel, > > Are you deleting all of the ways that you loaded with the bulk upload or > only those that are exceeding the limit. Those geopolitical boundaries > that consist of only a relatively small number of nodes are probably > fine to leave within OSM. > > Richard Degelder > It will be easier to reprocess all of them because I do not have to manage the updates (nodes to keep and new nodes). Let me know if the deletions cause you a problem. The new file with boundaries at 500 nodes is ready for an upload. But first I have to delete the current ones. Michel > > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Deleting Ways
Michel, Are you deleting all of the ways that you loaded with the bulk upload or only those that are exceeding the limit. Those geopolitical boundaries that consist of only a relatively small number of nodes are probably fine to leave within OSM. Richard Degelder ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
