Re: [Talk-ca] Highway=trunk
Olivier wrote: "In that case, the 50 between Gatineau and Lachute would in part be classified as motorway, parts as trunk?" Hé, I actually map that segment! (in my other life). I initially tagged this segment as "motorway" because the "trunk" designation is not used in Québec. It is now tagged "trunk", as expected looking at the wiki - and I don't complaint here!-) because it seems right to me. This example matches the proposed wiki definition and the road classification in Canvec product. However, I can't confirm -for the moment- that the NHS (http://www.comt.ca/reports/NHS-Map-08.pdf) has been used in GeoBase/Canvec Roads classification. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Olivier Hill [mailto:olivier.h...@gmail.com] Sent: November 4, 2010 08:06 To: Bégin, Daniel Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Highway=trunk Bonjour Daniel, > I understand that initially the roads in Québec were tagged using this > classification... > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Quebec > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EN:Canada:Quebec Funny the page says: "Trunk: ??? (should use National Highway Service roads);" > The concept of "trunk" is not really used in Québec, at least by French > people. So, local mapper won't use it. Absolutely. I just found out what NHS means actually. > The difference between trunk/motorway is based on carriageways (single/dual). So the wiki should say: motorway if dual, trunk if NHS and single carriageway? In that case, the 50 between Gatineau and Lachute would in part be classified as motorway, parts as trunk? [1] [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.68321&lon=-74.05471&zoom=15&layers=M Best regards, Olivier -- http://www.olivierhill.ca/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Highway=trunk
Bonjour Daniel, > I understand that initially the roads in Québec were tagged using this > classification... > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Quebec > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EN:Canada:Quebec Funny the page says: "Trunk: ??? (should use National Highway Service roads);" > The concept of "trunk" is not really used in Québec, at least by French > people. So, local mapper won't use it. Absolutely. I just found out what NHS means actually. > The difference between trunk/motorway is based on carriageways (single/dual). So the wiki should say: motorway if dual, trunk if NHS and single carriageway? In that case, the 50 between Gatineau and Lachute would in part be classified as motorway, parts as trunk? [1] [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.68321&lon=-74.05471&zoom=15&layers=M Best regards, Olivier -- http://www.olivierhill.ca/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Highway=trunk
Bonjour Olivier, I understand that initially the roads in Québec were tagged using this classification... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Quebec http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EN:Canada:Quebec The concept of "trunk" is not really used in Québec, at least by French people. So, local mapper won't use it. In the Canvec product (based on GeoBase), a trunk/motorway is "An unimpeded, high speed controlled access thoroughfare for through traffic with typically no at grade intersections, usually with no property access or direct access and which is accessed by a ramp. Pedestrians prohibited". The difference between trunk/motorway is based on carriageways (single/dual). Cheers, Daniel -Original Message- From: talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Olivier Hill Sent: November 3, 2010 16:46 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Highway=trunk Hello all, Is this still accurate: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canadian_tagging_guidelines#Trunk According to this, pretty much everything in Quebec is tagged wrongly with motorway. Should this be fixed? I have changed part of the 50 Lachute to Grenville, but it is not clear where it stops, where the 148 is used and how it's linked to Montreal (via the 15?) Best, Olivier -- http://www.olivierhill.ca/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Highway=trunk
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Olivier Hill wrote: > Hello all, > > Is this still accurate: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canadian_tagging_guidelines#Trunk That page looks like a mess to me, but I'm not interested in fixing it so I shouldn't complain. > According to this, pretty much everything in Quebec is tagged wrongly > with motorway. If it is limited access, dual carriageway, with grade separated interchanges and no direct access to properties (driveways), then it's a motorway. If there are some grade separated interchanges and some level crossings, then consider trunk. If there are driveways and direct access service roads, then primary is the highest classification possible. > Should this be fixed? I have changed part of the 50 Lachute to > Grenville, but it is not clear where it stops, where the 148 is used > and how it's linked to Montreal (via the 15?) ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Highway=trunk
Hello all, Is this still accurate: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canadian_tagging_guidelines#Trunk According to this, pretty much everything in Quebec is tagged wrongly with motorway. Should this be fixed? I have changed part of the 50 Lachute to Grenville, but it is not clear where it stops, where the 148 is used and how it's linked to Montreal (via the 15?) Best, Olivier -- http://www.olivierhill.ca/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
