Re: [Talk-ca] Manitoba Snowmobile trails

2015-03-11 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:58 AM, Sam Dyck samueld...@gmail.com wrote:
[ ... ]
 Additionally, thoughts
 on how to reach out to IndyGord would be appreciated.

Same as for any other mapper, when you have thoughts to share about
their mapping.  These are in the order I type them, not of
significance.  :-)

- site-mail.  You can send a message to other users from your editing
API account on OpenStreetMap.org.
1) log in to OpenStreetMap.org with your editing API account details.
2) visit the profile of the user in question.  In this case I had to
try a few because the case and spacing matters.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Indygord
3) press send message and let them know what is on your mind.  Offer
constructive criticism or compliments.

- user contact info. They might have an email address or web site
address, in their user profile page.
Same as above to visit the profile page.

- changeset discussions.
1) Starting with the database object that has your attention, find the
changeset that caused the issue.  Perhaps,
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/29000428
2) Add your thoughts to the discussion box.  Discussions are public.
Be nice and presume that the mapper wanted to do the right thing.

- reach out to them via this list, the main talk list, or the various
IRC channels.

- chat with them at local mapper events.

Best regards and happy mapping,

Richard

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Re: [Talk-ca] Manitoba Snowmobile trails

2015-03-11 Thread Sam Dyck
Hi Richard

Some clarifications. I have contacted IndyGord through the message
function, but have not received a response. Manitoba is an echo chamber.
Including me there are only 3 or 4 frequent contributors. We rarely contact
each other or coordinate, and aside from the time you were in Winnipeg I
have never met another Winnipeg mapper in person. It's not that I haven't
tried (I invited IndyGord to that event, they did not respond) but no one
else seems interested.

I contacted IndyGord through as general mail because snowmobile trails are
all that they do, and all of them have the same problems, and it seems
redundant to start a changeset discussion at this point (but am certainly
open to it if you or others still feel it is appropriate)

As for my relation, if people want to leave comments they can do so at
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/29282864

Sam

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:58 AM, Sam Dyck samueld...@gmail.com wrote:
 [ ... ]
  Additionally, thoughts
  on how to reach out to IndyGord would be appreciated.

 Same as for any other mapper, when you have thoughts to share about
 their mapping.  These are in the order I type them, not of
 significance.  :-)

 - site-mail.  You can send a message to other users from your editing
 API account on OpenStreetMap.org.
 1) log in to OpenStreetMap.org with your editing API account details.
 2) visit the profile of the user in question.  In this case I had to
 try a few because the case and spacing matters.
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Indygord
 3) press send message and let them know what is on your mind.  Offer
 constructive criticism or compliments.

 - user contact info. They might have an email address or web site
 address, in their user profile page.
 Same as above to visit the profile page.

 - changeset discussions.
 1) Starting with the database object that has your attention, find the
 changeset that caused the issue.  Perhaps,
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/29000428
 2) Add your thoughts to the discussion box.  Discussions are public.
 Be nice and presume that the mapper wanted to do the right thing.

 - reach out to them via this list, the main talk list, or the various
 IRC channels.

 - chat with them at local mapper events.

 Best regards and happy mapping,

 Richard

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[Talk-ca] Manitoba Snowmobile trails

2015-03-10 Thread Sam Dyck
Hi everyone

We have a user (IndyGord) who imported and has been updating the official
organized snowmobile routes, which is great. Unfortunately he doesn't do a
very good job. The trails ignore existing infrastructure and intersect
highways without an intersecting node, which leads to things like this (
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/49.44774/-96.25508 the snowmobile
trails are tagged as paths, everything else is a track) and has caused
problems with bike and foot routing throughout the province.

I attempted to fix this by converting the trails into a relation and
changing those routes accessible by other means of transportation into
tracks. Paths that could not be used by anything except snowmobiles (i.e.
they cross open water) were tagged foot=no and bicycle=no. I initially did
trail 29 (http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4651257) but decided to
look for feedback before proceeding. I sent a message to IndyGord on the
6th, but I haven't got a response.

So I am looking for feedback on my conversion of trail 29 and any
suggestions for how to do the rest of the province. Additionally, thoughts
on how to reach out to IndyGord would be appreciated.

Sam
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