[Talk-ca] Rendering rules and tagging paths and hard shoulders for cycles

2010-09-28 Thread john whelan
I realise there is some differences of opinion on this but I'm looking
for guidance.  Locally we seem to have a number of these tagged in
different ways.  CANVEC appears to tag some of them as highway=footway

wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Paths seems to have a wide range of
acceptable options, including bicycle=designated, bicycle=yes,
access=bicycle etc.

What is recommended for multi-use paths where cycling is permitted but
pedestrians have priority?

highway=path

highway=path
bicycle=yes perhaps?

Do we care that some are used as ski trails in winter?  Does this
suggest dec-march ski april-nov cycle?

Ontario is planning to increase paved hard shoulders to promote cycle
safety.  Quebec I think already has many of these.

paved_shoulder=yes
shoulder:access:bicycle=yes

Has been recommended, any suggestions on rendering rules?

Thanks John

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Re: [Talk-ca] Rendering rules and tagging paths and hard shoulders for cycles

2010-09-28 Thread Adam Dunn
Haven't done much bicycle tagging myself. Have you tried
tagg...@openstreetmap.org? I would highly recommend including pictures from
flickr etc, since different people have different ideas about what a cycle
lane is (especially people from different countries). Here in Chilliwack a
cycle path is just a hard shoulder, like [
http://www.flickr.com/photos/question_everything/4051911346/] (sometimes not
even that wide or clean), but in Europe a cycle path might be more like [
http://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/3017259090/] or [
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alanstanton/2319965160/]. Good to include
photos of what you're thinking of.

Adam

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:46 AM, john whelan  wrote:

> I realise there is some differences of opinion on this but I'm looking
> for guidance.  Locally we seem to have a number of these tagged in
> different ways.  CANVEC appears to tag some of them as highway=footway
>
> wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Paths seems to have a wide range of
> acceptable options, including bicycle=designated, bicycle=yes,
> access=bicycle etc.
>
> What is recommended for multi-use paths where cycling is permitted but
> pedestrians have priority?
>
> highway=path
>
> highway=path
> bicycle=yes perhaps?
>
> Do we care that some are used as ski trails in winter?  Does this
> suggest dec-march ski april-nov cycle?
>
> Ontario is planning to increase paved hard shoulders to promote cycle
> safety.  Quebec I think already has many of these.
>
> paved_shoulder=yes
> shoulder:access:bicycle=yes
>
> Has been recommended, any suggestions on rendering rules?
>
> Thanks John
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Rendering rules and tagging paths and hard shoulders for cycles

2010-09-28 Thread john whelan
I was thinking more of some one using the data that what the cycle
lanes looked like hence the hard shoulder question and I'm only
interested in Canadian suggestions, to be honest and parochial I'm
just interested in Ottawa.

However having said that in order to make the data useful it would be
better if we were consistent within Canada.

Thanks John

On 28 September 2010 14:44, Adam Dunn  wrote:
> Haven't done much bicycle tagging myself. Have you tried
> tagg...@openstreetmap.org? I would highly recommend including pictures from
> flickr etc, since different people have different ideas about what a cycle
> lane is (especially people from different countries). Here in Chilliwack a
> cycle path is just a hard shoulder, like
> [http://www.flickr.com/photos/question_everything/4051911346/] (sometimes
> not even that wide or clean), but in Europe a cycle path might be more like
> [http://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/3017259090/] or
> [http://www.flickr.com/photos/alanstanton/2319965160/]. Good to include
> photos of what you're thinking of.
>
> Adam
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:46 AM, john whelan  wrote:
>>
>> I realise there is some differences of opinion on this but I'm looking
>> for guidance.  Locally we seem to have a number of these tagged in
>> different ways.  CANVEC appears to tag some of them as highway=footway
>>
>> wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Paths seems to have a wide range of
>> acceptable options, including bicycle=designated, bicycle=yes,
>> access=bicycle etc.
>>
>> What is recommended for multi-use paths where cycling is permitted but
>> pedestrians have priority?
>>
>> highway=path
>>
>> highway=path
>> bicycle=yes perhaps?
>>
>> Do we care that some are used as ski trails in winter?  Does this
>> suggest dec-march ski april-nov cycle?
>>
>> Ontario is planning to increase paved hard shoulders to promote cycle
>> safety.  Quebec I think already has many of these.
>>
>> paved_shoulder=yes
>> shoulder:access:bicycle=yes
>>
>> Has been recommended, any suggestions on rendering rules?
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
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