[Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries

2012-01-17 Thread Olivier Hill
Hello all,

Nice meeting some of you in the Toronto Meetup yesterday.

For those that remember, I asked a question about city boundaries and
sources of data.

Can the data from StatCan be used in OSM? I'm referring to this
product for example:

http://geodepot.statcan.gc.ca/2006/040120011618150421032019/02152114040118250609120519_05-eng.jsp

Best,
Olivier
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Re: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries

2012-01-17 Thread Tyler Gunn
 For those that remember, I asked a question about city boundaries and
 sources of data.
 Can the data from StatCan be used in OSM? I'm referring to this
 product for example:
 http://geodepot.statcan.gc.ca/2006/040120011618150421032019/02152114040118250609120519_05-eng.jsp
 Best,
 Olivier

As far as I'm aware, the Stats Canada boundaries are valid to use:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Statistics_Canada_%28StatsCAN%29

I used some in the past in Manitoba, but the boundaries were not
granular enough to reflect towns and smaller areas within Manitoba, so
I ended up using another source.

Tyler

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Re: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries

2012-01-17 Thread Gordon Dewis
Disclaimer: Speaking strictly for myself and not the government statistical 
agency I work for.

Hi...

I believe this came up a year or two ago and that the answer at the time was 
no. But, I will ask the licensing people at work and see what they say.

Cheers!

  --G
--Original Message--
From: Olivier Hill
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries
Sent: Jan 17, 2012 08:53

Hello all,

Nice meeting some of you in the Toronto Meetup yesterday.

For those that remember, I asked a question about city boundaries and
sources of data.

Can the data from StatCan be used in OSM? I'm referring to this
product for example:

http://geodepot.statcan.gc.ca/2006/040120011618150421032019/02152114040118250609120519_05-eng.jsp

Best,
Olivier
-- 
http://www.olivierhill.ca/

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Re: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries

2012-01-17 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Bonjour,

About city boundaries, Canadian Geopolitical Boundaries are available under 
geobase web site...
http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/admin/index.html 

Furthermore, we are working on integrating Geopolitical Boundaries information 
in Canvec.osm for the next release.

Hope it helps,
Daniel 

-Original Message-
From: Gordon Dewis [mailto:gor...@pinetree.org] 
Sent: January 17, 2012 08:59
To: Olivier Hill; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries

Disclaimer: Speaking strictly for myself and not the government statistical 
agency I work for.

Hi...

I believe this came up a year or two ago and that the answer at the time was 
no. But, I will ask the licensing people at work and see what they say.

Cheers!

  --G
--Original Message--
From: Olivier Hill
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries
Sent: Jan 17, 2012 08:53

Hello all,

Nice meeting some of you in the Toronto Meetup yesterday.

For those that remember, I asked a question about city boundaries and sources 
of data.

Can the data from StatCan be used in OSM? I'm referring to this product for 
example:

http://geodepot.statcan.gc.ca/2006/040120011618150421032019/02152114040118250609120519_05-eng.jsp

Best,
Olivier
--
http://www.olivierhill.ca/

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Re: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries

2012-01-17 Thread Gordon Dewis
Disclaimer: I am speaking for myself and not for my employer. Especially
not for my employer.


I just had a look at the 2011 Census boundary file reference guide (
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/92-160-g/92-160-g2011001-eng.pdf) and it
appears that there's a new license. IANAL, but it looks like a source
statement would have to be displayed whenever a census boundary or
derivative is used.

But going back to the original question of using Statistics Canada data for
city boundaries, I'm not sure this is the best idea. Census boundary files
are based on Census geographies. Depending on the geography, you could have
boundaries that coincide with municipal boundaries in some cases, but not
in others. For example, census metropolitan areas (CMAs) do not necessarily
respect municipal boundaries. The CMA Toronto, for example, do not really
resemble the City of Toronto's boundaries. But if you use something like a
CSD (census subdivision) then you have boundaries that more closely match
municipal boundaries, at least for larger cities.

I haven't had a chance to talk to the licensing people, yet.

  --G


On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Bégin, Daniel 
daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote:

 Bonjour,

 About city boundaries, Canadian Geopolitical Boundaries are available
 under geobase web site...
 http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/admin/index.html

 Furthermore, we are working on integrating Geopolitical Boundaries
 information in Canvec.osm for the next release.

 Hope it helps,
 Daniel

 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Dewis [mailto:gor...@pinetree.org]
 Sent: January 17, 2012 08:59
 To: Olivier Hill; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries

 Disclaimer: Speaking strictly for myself and not the government
 statistical agency I work for.

 Hi...

 I believe this came up a year or two ago and that the answer at the time
 was no. But, I will ask the licensing people at work and see what they say.

 Cheers!

  --G
 --Original Message--
 From: Olivier Hill
 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: [Talk-ca] StatCan Boundaries
 Sent: Jan 17, 2012 08:53

 Hello all,

 Nice meeting some of you in the Toronto Meetup yesterday.

 For those that remember, I asked a question about city boundaries and
 sources of data.

 Can the data from StatCan be used in OSM? I'm referring to this product
 for example:


 http://geodepot.statcan.gc.ca/2006/040120011618150421032019/02152114040118250609120519_05-eng.jsp

 Best,
 Olivier
 --
 http://www.olivierhill.ca/

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