[Talk-ca] StatsCan Road Network

2008-12-11 Thread Brent Fraser
StatsCan has road network data available too:

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/bsolc/olc-cel/olc-cel?catno=92-500-Xlang=eng

Not as much geometric detail, and less positional accuracy than CanVec, but it 
does have address ranges.

E.G. Attributes for a road (4th ave SW)in Calgary:

RB_UID=135363
NAME=4
TYPE=AVE
DIRECTION=SW
ADDR_FM_LE=707
ADDR_TO_LE=707
ADDR_FM_RG=700
ADDR_TO_RG=744


Brent Fraser
GeoAnalytic Inc.

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Re: [Talk-ca] StatsCan Road Network

2008-12-11 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Would the StatsCan Data be available to us though (to input into OSM based
on our license)?  After reading the license agreement it sounds a bit iffy
because of the acknowledgement required even if it is released under an
unrestricted use license agreement, but I don't know what exactly is allowed
at OSM. Here's an excerpt from the license agreement for the road network:

*3.0 Licence grant*

3.1 Subject to this Agreement, the Licensor hereby grants to the Licensee a
non-exclusive, world-wide, non-assignable, royalty-free right and licence to
exercise such of the Licensor's Licensed Rights and such of the Licensor's
Intellectual Property Rights in the Data as is necessary to use, reproduce,
extract, modify, translate, further develop, distribute the Data,
manufacture or cause to be manufactured and sell or license or cause to be
sold or licensed Derived Products, and to sub-licence any or all of such
rights, PROVIDED:

(i) all reproductions of the Data shall carry the notices and metadata
information set out in section 4 hereof and the provisions contained in
sections 5, to be amended in such circumstances by replacing the term
Licensor as found in the aforementioned provisions with the Licensor's
applied title or any such designation as the Licensor may indicate; and
(ii) all distribution of the Data or licensing by the Licensee of Derived
Products containing the Data, and any sub-licence by the Licensee of its
rights hereunder, shall be evidenced in writing, shall be on the same terms
and conditions as contained herein and shall specifically include the
provisions contained in sections 4, 5 and 6.2 hereof, to be amended in the
circumstances by replacing in such agreements the term Licensor as found
in the aforementioned provisions with the Licensor's applied title or any
such designation as the Licensor may indicate.
3.2 The Intellectual Property Rights arising from any Modifications or from
the manufacture of Derived Products, effected by or for the Licensee, shall
vest in the Licensee or in such person as the Licensee shall decide.
*
4.0 Acknowledgement of source and incorporation of metadata*

4.1 The Licensee shall include the following notice where any of the Data is
contained within Derived Products,

* Source: Geography Division, Statistics Canada, 2008 Road Network File,
92-500-XWE, 92-500-XWF
The incorporation of data sourced from Statistics Canada within this product
shall not be construed as constituting an endorsement by Statistics Canada
of such product *

or any other notice deemed appropriate by the Licensor.

4.2 The Licensee shall reproduce, include and maintain the following notice
on all reproductions of the Licensor's Data produced pursuant to Section 3
above:

Reproduced with the permission of Statistics Canada
 4.3 The Licensee shall incorporate in all reproduction and downstream
distribution of the Data all metadata included by the Licensor in the
provision of the Data.

Too bad there wasn't a common UID across all of the government databases
though, because if there was we would be able to merge the address
attributes into the GeoBase/CanVec road network, and address location and
network routing would be possible in the future.

-Kevin Farrugia
(Kevo)


On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Brent Fraser bfra...@geoanalytic.comwrote:

 StatsCan has road network data available too:

 http://www.statcan.gc.ca/bsolc/olc-cel/olc-cel?catno=92-500-Xlang=eng

 Not as much geometric detail, and less positional accuracy than CanVec, but
 it does have address ranges.

 E.G. Attributes for a road (4th ave SW)in Calgary:

 RB_UID=135363
 NAME=4
 TYPE=AVE
 DIRECTION=SW
 ADDR_FM_LE=707
 ADDR_TO_LE=707
 ADDR_FM_RG=700
 ADDR_TO_RG=744


 Brent Fraser
 GeoAnalytic Inc.

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Re: [Talk-ca] StatsCan Road Network

2008-12-11 Thread Michel Gilbert
2008/12/11 Brent Fraser bfra...@geoanalytic.com

 Kevin,

  Good point. I got excited by the unrestricted-use claim...

 Kevin Farrugia wrote:
  Would the StatsCan Data be available to us though (to input into OSM
  based on our license)?  After reading the license agreement it sounds a
  bit iffy because of the acknowledgement required even if it is released
  under an unrestricted use license a greement, but I don't know what
  exactly is allowed at OSM. Here's an excerpt from the license agreement
  for the road network:


The Geobase NRN has better geometry: it is accurate (published accuracy) and
homogeneous. I do not think you will find out what are the sources used by
Stats Can for their product. Also, Geobase adopted update cycles and provide
a Unique National Identifier to track the changes. For now Geobase does not
have a full attributive product for street names and adresses but partners
are working to create the NRN 2.0 wich includes those attributes. I think
Stats Canada is one of the partners for the NRN 2.0.

Michel


 :

  4.2 The Licensee shall reproduce, include and maintain the following
  notice on all reproductions of the Licensor's Data produced pursuant to
  Section 3 above:
 
  Reproduced with the permission of Statistics Canada
 
  4.3 The Licensee shall incorporate in all reproduction and downstream
  distribution of the Data all metadata included by the Licensor in the
  provision of the Data.

 Gratis, but not truly libre.  But they may be willing to make an exception
 for OSM.

 Brent
 
  Too bad there wasn't a common UID across all of the government databases
  though, because if there was we would be able to merge the address
  attributes into the GeoBase/CanVec road network, and address location
  and network routing would be possible in the future.

 Hopefully they are working on that, but who knows...

 
  -Kevin Farrugia
  (Kevo)
 
 

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