[Talk-ca] Tagging for streets on a military base

2011-04-15 Thread Connors, Bernie (SNB)
I am looking at the street tags for CFB Gagetown in Oromocto, New Brunswick.  
Currently all of the streets are tagged residential.  Of course there are some 
military personnel that live on the base but the majority of the roads I am 
looking at are not residential:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.8424389362335lon=-66.4528870582581zoom=16

I have considered the following tags: service, minor, and tertiary but none of 
them seem appropriate.  Any suggestions?

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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging for streets on a military base

2011-04-15 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Connors, Bernie (SNB)
bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote:
 I am looking at the street tags for CFB Gagetown in Oromocto, New
 Brunswick.  Currently all of the streets are tagged residential.  Of course
 there are some military personnel that live on the base but the majority of
 the roads I am looking at are not residential:



 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.8424389362335lon=-66.4528870582581zoom=16



 I have considered the following tags: service, minor, and tertiary but none
 of them seem appropriate.  Any suggestions?

highway=unclassified seems right.  unclassified is a strange beast
in OSM.  it comes from the UK official road classification called
unclassified, or something.  Seems a little weird, but there we are.
 As a practical matter, I use unclassified for the following.

- a shorthand for it's kind of like residential but without the houses
- roads of the public road network that are least important but not
residential.  So, minor commercial/light-industrial area roads.
- when the residential / non-residential mix in a mixed use area leans
more towards non-residential.

I don't have local context for the area you mention, so take my
experience with a grain or two of salt. For similar large areas, I
would consider residential in the residential areas. unclassified
elsewhere. tertiary for those roads that are more important within the
area and for entrance / exit roads.  And highway=service; (possibly
also with service=driveway) for those ways that aren't even roads in
the area.  Though leaving the driveways and parking areas for somebody
else to map is fine too.  ;-)  And marking the access restrictions
either at the gates, or for all roads probably makes sense.

Best regards,
Richard

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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging for streets on a military base

2011-04-15 Thread Connors, Bernie (SNB)
Richard,

I looked at CFB Petawawa and CFB Greenwood. The streets amongst the 
large buildings at Petawawa are all tagged residential.  In Greenwood the 
streets amongst the large buildings are tagged service - but at Greenwood the 
large buildings are all clustered along the edge of the airfield so the 
service tag makes more sense.  I think your suggestion to use the 
unclassified tag is the best fit for streets on a military base.

Bernie.
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Service New Brunswick
(506) 444-2077
45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W
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Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging for streets on a military base

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Connors, Bernie (SNB)
bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote:
 I am looking at the street tags for CFB Gagetown in Oromocto, New
 Brunswick.  Currently all of the streets are tagged residential.  Of course
 there are some military personnel that live on the base but the majority of
 the roads I am looking at are not residential:



 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.8424389362335lon=-66.4528870582581zoom=16



 I have considered the following tags: service, minor, and tertiary but none
 of them seem appropriate.  Any suggestions?

highway=unclassified seems right.  unclassified is a strange beast
in OSM.  it comes from the UK official road classification called
unclassified, or something.  Seems a little weird, but there we are.
 As a practical matter, I use unclassified for the following.

- a shorthand for it's kind of like residential but without the houses
- roads of the public road network that are least important but not
residential.  So, minor commercial/light-industrial area roads.
- when the residential / non-residential mix in a mixed use area leans
more towards non-residential.

I don't have local context for the area you mention, so take my
experience with a grain or two of salt. For similar large areas, I
would consider residential in the residential areas. unclassified
elsewhere. tertiary for those roads that are more important within the
area and for entrance / exit roads.  And highway=service; (possibly
also with service=driveway) for those ways that aren't even roads in
the area.  Though leaving the driveways and parking areas for somebody
else to map is fine too.  ;-)  And marking the access restrictions
either at the gates, or for all roads probably makes sense.

Best regards,
Richard

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