Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads
a very Canadian-specific script (there are chunks of code that deal with naming of major trunks on a province-by-province basis using if-else programming). Also, I don't have much experience programming GIS stuff. For example, the Canadian way of doing this uses EPSG 3348 for projection [1]. I did some Google searching, and it looks like you would want to use EPSG 4191 for the Albania area (see [2]), but 2462 might also the one you want to use ([3], although it looks like you get weird projected bounds with it). I don't know why this reprojection is really even necessary. When you look at EPSG 3348 (the Canadian one), the projected bounds are really weird there as well, so maybe it has to be done just to match up with NRN. If the Albania dataset is already in Lat/Long and 4191 is in Lat/Long and OSM is in Lat/Long, maybe you don't need to reproject at all? Someone with more GIS knowledge should know. You'll also want a script to automatically convert various attributes in the shp file to tags that are used by OSM. For example, I opened up the Roads_OSM.shp file in OpenJUMP (just the way it is, no changes or reprojections or anything), and I see that one road has the following properties: ID: 175879.0 Type: Well-Kept Gravel Road Category: 2 Cat2: 20 Shape_Leng: 0.0 Name: Shape_Le_1: 774.851 ET_ID: 167693 Most of these you probably won't care about, but Type: Well-Kept Gravel Road should be converted to surface=gravel; and highway=unclassified or residential or track=* depending on what the Category: 2 and Cat2: 20 mean. Another road has Type: Dwelling Area Road, which would probably be highway=residential; I've also seen Type: Village Road, Type: Railway, Type: Seasonal Road, and Type: National Asphalted Road. You can see where geobase2osm.py makes similar mappings for Canada, by looking at lines 63 to 77 in geobase2osm.py [4]. None of the roads I sampled had names associated with them (even the national highway, the name was blank). You'll probably have to match up road names to the roads using one of the other data sets? I would like to help out more, but I'm afraid I don't have the experience. I could lend a hand in modifying the SQL tables and geobase2osm.py, but I would be of limited help there, and I haven't a clue how you would get road names imported. You'll want more expertise help in getting the proper toolchain. [1] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3348/ [2] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4191/ [3] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/2462/ [4] http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/geobase2osm/geobase2osm.py Adam On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Adam, James is looking to use RoadMatcher, i know its on the wiki, but that page needs to be fixed. Would you be able to explain it? Personally, i now favour tracing WMS, but for massive areas RoadMatcher is the way to go :-) Also, Robert (Bob) Shand from PEI is currently Itching to also learn how its done. Cheers, Sam -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:13:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Sounds like you just need to convert SHP to OSM. Then you can upload from JOSM. There's a script here (though I haven't tried it): http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I have been talking to Sam V. who mentioned that you guys are experts in openjump for road importing. before I dig too deep into this myself, let me ask if anyone can help me with my current problem: I have these files from a public domain source, projected into Lat/Lon http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/ [image: [ ]] LL_Roads_OSM.dbf http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.dbf 05-Mar-2010 07:48 53M [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.prj http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.prj05-Mar-2010 07:48 143 [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shp http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shp05-Mar-2010 07:48 35M [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shx http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shx05-Mar-2010 07:48 1.5M They are from http://tpginc.net/gis/albania/albania.php we would like to find the new roads that are not in OSM and import them. Can anyone help? can you tell me exactly what software to install, I am a bit confused my the many pages and broken links I found for jump. thanks, mike
Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads
. Another road has Type: Dwelling Area Road, which would probably be highway=residential; I've also seen Type: Village Road, Type: Railway, Type: Seasonal Road, and Type: National Asphalted Road. You can see where geobase2osm.py makes similar mappings for Canada, by looking at lines 63 to 77 in geobase2osm.py [4]. None of the roads I sampled had names associated with them (even the national highway, the name was blank). You'll probably have to match up road names to the roads using one of the other data sets? I would like to help out more, but I'm afraid I don't have the experience. I could lend a hand in modifying the SQL tables and geobase2osm.py, but I would be of limited help there, and I haven't a clue how you would get road names imported. You'll want more expertise help in getting the proper toolchain. [1] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3348/ [2] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4191/ [3] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/2462/ [4] http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/geobase2osm/geobase2osm.py Adam On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Adam, James is looking to use RoadMatcher, i know its on the wiki, but that page needs to be fixed. Would you be able to explain it? Personally, i now favour tracing WMS, but for massive areas RoadMatcher is the way to go :-) Also, Robert (Bob) Shand from PEI is currently Itching to also learn how its done. Cheers, Sam -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:13:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Sounds like you just need to convert SHP to OSM. Then you can upload from JOSM. There's a script here (though I haven't tried it): http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I have been talking to Sam V. who mentioned that you guys are experts in openjump for road importing. before I dig too deep into this myself, let me ask if anyone can help me with my current problem: I have these files from a public domain source, projected into Lat/Lon http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/ [image: [ ]] LL_Roads_OSM.dbf http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.dbf 05-Mar-2010 07:48 53M [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.prj http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.prj05-Mar-2010 07:48 143 [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shp http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shp05-Mar-2010 07:48 35M [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shx http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shx05-Mar-2010 07:48 1.5M They are from http://tpginc.net/gis/albania/albania.php we would like to find the new roads that are not in OSM and import them. Can anyone help? can you tell me exactly what software to install, I am a bit confused my the many pages and broken links I found for jump. thanks, mike ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blog: http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans OpenStreetMap IRC: http://irc.openstreetmap.org @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads
various attributes in the shp file to tags that are used by OSM. For example, I opened up the Roads_OSM.shp file in OpenJUMP (just the way it is, no changes or reprojections or anything), and I see that one road has the following properties: ID: 175879.0 Type: Well-Kept Gravel Road Category: 2 Cat2: 20 Shape_Leng: 0.0 Name: Shape_Le_1: 774.851 ET_ID: 167693 Most of these you probably won't care about, but Type: Well-Kept Gravel Road should be converted to surface=gravel; and highway=unclassified or residential or track=* depending on what the Category: 2 and Cat2: 20 mean. Another road has Type: Dwelling Area Road, which would probably be highway=residential; I've also seen Type: Village Road, Type: Railway, Type: Seasonal Road, and Type: National Asphalted Road. You can see where geobase2osm.py makes similar mappings for Canada, by looking at lines 63 to 77 in geobase2osm.py [4]. None of the roads I sampled had names associated with them (even the national highway, the name was blank). You'll probably have to match up road names to the roads using one of the other data sets? I would like to help out more, but I'm afraid I don't have the experience. I could lend a hand in modifying the SQL tables and geobase2osm.py, but I would be of limited help there, and I haven't a clue how you would get road names imported. You'll want more expertise help in getting the proper toolchain. [1] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3348/ [2] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4191/ [3] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/2462/ [4] http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/geobase2osm/geobase2osm.py Adam On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Adam, James is looking to use RoadMatcher, i know its on the wiki, but that page needs to be fixed. Would you be able to explain it? Personally, i now favour tracing WMS, but for massive areas RoadMatcher is the way to go :-) Also, Robert (Bob) Shand from PEI is currently Itching to also learn how its done. Cheers, Sam -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:13:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Sounds like you just need to convert SHP to OSM. Then you can upload from JOSM. There's a script here (though I haven't tried it): http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I have been talking to Sam V. who mentioned that you guys are experts in openjump for road importing. before I dig too deep into this myself, let me ask if anyone can help me with my current problem: I have these files from a public domain source, projected into Lat/Lon http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/ [image: [ ]] LL_Roads_OSM.dbf http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.dbf 05-Mar-2010 07:48 53M [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.prj http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.prj05-Mar-2010 07:48 143 [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shp http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shp05-Mar-2010 07:48 35M [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shx http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shx05-Mar-2010 07:48 1.5M They are from http://tpginc.net/gis/albania/albania.php we would like to find the new roads that are not in OSM and import them. Can anyone help? can you tell me exactly what software to install, I am a bit confused my the many pages and broken links I found for jump. thanks, mike ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blog: http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans OpenStreetMap IRC: http://irc.openstreetmap.org @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads
might also the one you want to use ([3], although it looks like you get weird projected bounds with it). I don't know why this reprojection is really even necessary. When you look at EPSG 3348 (the Canadian one), the projected bounds are really weird there as well, so maybe it has to be done just to match up with NRN. If the Albania dataset is already in Lat/Long and 4191 is in Lat/Long and OSM is in Lat/Long, maybe you don't need to reproject at all? Someone with more GIS knowledge should know. You'll also want a script to automatically convert various attributes in the shp file to tags that are used by OSM. For example, I opened up the Roads_OSM.shp file in OpenJUMP (just the way it is, no changes or reprojections or anything), and I see that one road has the following properties: ID: 175879.0 Type: Well-Kept Gravel Road Category: 2 Cat2: 20 Shape_Leng: 0.0 Name: Shape_Le_1: 774.851 ET_ID: 167693 Most of these you probably won't care about, but Type: Well-Kept Gravel Road should be converted to surface=gravel; and highway=unclassified or residential or track=* depending on what the Category: 2 and Cat2: 20 mean. Another road has Type: Dwelling Area Road, which would probably be highway=residential; I've also seen Type: Village Road, Type: Railway, Type: Seasonal Road, and Type: National Asphalted Road. You can see where geobase2osm.py makes similar mappings for Canada, by looking at lines 63 to 77 in geobase2osm.py [4]. None of the roads I sampled had names associated with them (even the national highway, the name was blank). You'll probably have to match up road names to the roads using one of the other data sets? I would like to help out more, but I'm afraid I don't have the experience. I could lend a hand in modifying the SQL tables and geobase2osm.py, but I would be of limited help there, and I haven't a clue how you would get road names imported. You'll want more expertise help in getting the proper toolchain. [1] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3348/ [2] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4191/ [3] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/2462/ [4] http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/geobase2osm/geobase2osm.py Adam On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Adam, James is looking to use RoadMatcher, i know its on the wiki, but that page needs to be fixed. Would you be able to explain it? Personally, i now favour tracing WMS, but for massive areas RoadMatcher is the way to go :-) Also, Robert (Bob) Shand from PEI is currently Itching to also learn how its done. Cheers, Sam -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:13:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Sounds like you just need to convert SHP to OSM. Then you can upload from JOSM. There's a script here (though I haven't tried it): http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I have been talking to Sam V. who mentioned that you guys are experts in openjump for road importing. before I dig too deep into this myself, let me ask if anyone can help me with my current problem: I have these files from a public domain source, projected into Lat/Lon http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/ [image: [ ]] LL_Roads_OSM.dbf http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.dbf 05-Mar-2010 07:48 53M [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.prj http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.prj05-Mar-2010 07:48 143 [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shp http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shp05-Mar-2010 07:48 35M [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shx http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shx05-Mar-2010 07:48 1.5M They are from http://tpginc.net/gis/albania/albania.php we would like to find the new roads that are not in OSM and import them. Can anyone help? can you tell me exactly what software to install, I am a bit confused my the many pages and broken links I found for jump. thanks, mike ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blog: http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans OpenStreetMap IRC: http://irc.openstreetmap.org @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http
Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads
imported. You'll want more expertise help in getting the proper toolchain. [1] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3348/ [2] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4191/ [3] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/2462/ [4] http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/geobase2osm/geobase2osm.py Adam On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Adam, James is looking to use RoadMatcher, i know its on the wiki, but that page needs to be fixed. Would you be able to explain it? Personally, i now favour tracing WMS, but for massive areas RoadMatcher is the way to go :-) Also, Robert (Bob) Shand from PEI is currently Itching to also learn how its done. Cheers, Sam -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:13:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Sounds like you just need to convert SHP to OSM. Then you can upload from JOSM. There's a script here (though I haven't tried it): http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I have been talking to Sam V. who mentioned that you guys are experts in openjump for road importing. before I dig too deep into this myself, let me ask if anyone can help me with my current problem: I have these files from a public domain source, projected into Lat/Lon http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/ [image: [ ]] LL_Roads_OSM.dbf http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.dbf 05-Mar-2010 07:48 53M [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.prj http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.prj05-Mar-2010 07:48 143 [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shp http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shp05-Mar-2010 07:48 35M [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shx http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shx05-Mar-2010 07:48 1.5M They are from http://tpginc.net/gis/albania/albania.php we would like to find the new roads that are not in OSM and import them. Can anyone help? can you tell me exactly what software to install, I am a bit confused my the many pages and broken links I found for jump. thanks, mike ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blog: http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans OpenStreetMap IRC: http://irc.openstreetmap.org @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads
Hi, I was kind of hoping someone more knowledgeable in GIS programming would've responded first for the following reasons: geobase2osm.py is an integral part of the whole roadmatching process for Canada, and it's a very Canadian-specific script (there are chunks of code that deal with naming of major trunks on a province-by-province basis using if-else programming). Also, I don't have much experience programming GIS stuff. For example, the Canadian way of doing this uses EPSG 3348 for projection [1]. I did some Google searching, and it looks like you would want to use EPSG 4191 for the Albania area (see [2]), but 2462 might also the one you want to use ([3], although it looks like you get weird projected bounds with it). I don't know why this reprojection is really even necessary. When you look at EPSG 3348 (the Canadian one), the projected bounds are really weird there as well, so maybe it has to be done just to match up with NRN. If the Albania dataset is already in Lat/Long and 4191 is in Lat/Long and OSM is in Lat/Long, maybe you don't need to reproject at all? Someone with more GIS knowledge should know. You'll also want a script to automatically convert various attributes in the shp file to tags that are used by OSM. For example, I opened up the Roads_OSM.shp file in OpenJUMP (just the way it is, no changes or reprojections or anything), and I see that one road has the following properties: ID: 175879.0 Type: Well-Kept Gravel Road Category: 2 Cat2: 20 Shape_Leng: 0.0 Name: Shape_Le_1: 774.851 ET_ID: 167693 Most of these you probably won't care about, but Type: Well-Kept Gravel Road should be converted to surface=gravel; and highway=unclassified or residential or track=* depending on what the Category: 2 and Cat2: 20 mean. Another road has Type: Dwelling Area Road, which would probably be highway=residential; I've also seen Type: Village Road, Type: Railway, Type: Seasonal Road, and Type: National Asphalted Road. You can see where geobase2osm.py makes similar mappings for Canada, by looking at lines 63 to 77 in geobase2osm.py [4]. None of the roads I sampled had names associated with them (even the national highway, the name was blank). You'll probably have to match up road names to the roads using one of the other data sets? I would like to help out more, but I'm afraid I don't have the experience. I could lend a hand in modifying the SQL tables and geobase2osm.py, but I would be of limited help there, and I haven't a clue how you would get road names imported. You'll want more expertise help in getting the proper toolchain. [1] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3348/ [2] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4191/ [3] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/2462/ [4] http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/geobase2osm/geobase2osm.py Adam On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Adam, James is looking to use RoadMatcher, i know its on the wiki, but that page needs to be fixed. Would you be able to explain it? Personally, i now favour tracing WMS, but for massive areas RoadMatcher is the way to go :-) Also, Robert (Bob) Shand from PEI is currently Itching to also learn how its done. Cheers, Sam -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:13:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Sounds like you just need to convert SHP to OSM. Then you can upload from JOSM. There's a script here (though I haven't tried it): http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I have been talking to Sam V. who mentioned that you guys are experts in openjump for road importing. before I dig too deep into this myself, let me ask if anyone can help me with my current problem: I have these files from a public domain source, projected into Lat/Lon http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/ [image: [ ]] LL_Roads_OSM.dbf http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.dbf 05-Mar-2010 07:48 53M [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.prj http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.prj05-Mar-2010 07:48 143 [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shp http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shp05-Mar-2010 07:48 35M [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shx http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shx05-Mar-2010 07:48 1.5M They are from http://tpginc.net/gis/albania/albania.php we would like to find the new roads that are not in OSM and import them. Can anyone help? can you tell me exactly what software to install, I am a bit confused my the many pages and broken links I found for jump. thanks, mike