Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads

2010-04-05 Thread Adam Dunn
 a very Canadian-specific script (there are chunks of code
 that deal with naming of major trunks on a province-by-province basis 
 using
 if-else programming).
 
  Also, I don't have much experience programming GIS stuff. For
 example, the Canadian way of doing this uses EPSG 3348 for projection 
 [1]. I
 did some Google searching, and it looks like you would want to use EPSG 
 4191
 for the Albania area (see [2]), but 2462 might also the one you want to 
 use
 ([3], although it looks like you get weird projected bounds with it). I
 don't know why this reprojection is really even necessary. When you look 
 at
 EPSG 3348 (the Canadian one), the projected bounds are really weird there 
 as
 well, so maybe it has to be done just to match up with NRN. If the Albania
 dataset is already in Lat/Long and 4191 is in Lat/Long and OSM is in
 Lat/Long, maybe you don't need to reproject at all? Someone with more GIS
 knowledge should know.
 
  You'll also want a script to automatically convert various attributes
 in the shp file to tags that are used by OSM. For example, I opened up the
 Roads_OSM.shp file in OpenJUMP (just the way it is, no changes or
 reprojections or anything), and I see that one road has the following
 properties:
  ID: 175879.0
  Type: Well-Kept Gravel Road
  Category: 2
  Cat2: 20
  Shape_Leng: 0.0
  Name:
  Shape_Le_1: 774.851
  ET_ID: 167693
 
  Most of these you probably won't care about, but Type: Well-Kept
 Gravel Road should be converted to
  surface=gravel;
  and highway=unclassified or residential or track=* depending on what
 the Category: 2 and Cat2: 20 mean.
 
  Another road has Type: Dwelling Area Road, which would probably be
 highway=residential;
 
  I've also seen Type: Village Road, Type: Railway, Type: Seasonal
 Road, and Type: National Asphalted Road.
 
  You can see where geobase2osm.py makes similar mappings for Canada,
 by looking at lines 63 to 77 in geobase2osm.py [4].
 
  None of the roads I sampled had names associated with them (even the
 national highway, the name was blank). You'll probably have to match up 
 road
 names to the roads using one of the other data sets?
 
  I would like to help out more, but I'm afraid I don't have the
 experience. I could lend a hand in modifying the SQL tables and
 geobase2osm.py, but I would be of limited help there, and I haven't a clue
 how you would get road names imported. You'll want more expertise help in
 getting the proper toolchain.
 
  [1] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3348/
  [2] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4191/
  [3] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/2462/
  [4]
 http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/geobase2osm/geobase2osm.py
 
  Adam
 
  On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sam Vekemans 
 acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Adam,
  James is looking to use RoadMatcher, i know its on the wiki, but
 that
  page needs to be fixed.
  Would you be able to explain it?
 
  Personally, i now favour tracing WMS, but for massive areas
  RoadMatcher is the way to go :-)
 
  Also, Robert (Bob) Shand from PEI is currently Itching to also learn
  how its done.
 
  Cheers,
  Sam
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:13:39 -0700
  Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads
  To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com 
 jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
  Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 
  Sounds like you just need to convert SHP to OSM. Then you can upload
 from
  JOSM. There's a script here (though I haven't tried it):
  http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo
 
  On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com 
  jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
   I have been talking to Sam V. who mentioned that you guys are
 experts in
   openjump for road importing.
   before I dig too deep into this myself, let me ask if anyone can
 help me
   with my current problem:
  
   I have these files from a public domain source, projected into
 Lat/Lon
  
   http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/
  
   [image: [ ]] LL_Roads_OSM.dbf
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.dbf
 05-Mar-2010
   07:48 53M  [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.prj
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.prj05-Mar-2010
 07:48 143
 [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shp
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shp05-Mar-2010
 07:48
   35M  [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shx
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shx05-Mar-2010
 07:48
   1.5M
   They are from http://tpginc.net/gis/albania/albania.php
  
   we would like to find the new roads that are not in OSM and import
 them.
   Can anyone help? can you tell me exactly what software to install,
 I am a
   bit confused my the many pages and broken links I found for jump.
  
   thanks,
   mike

Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads

2010-03-19 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
.
 
  Another road has Type: Dwelling Area Road, which would probably be
 highway=residential;
 
  I've also seen Type: Village Road, Type: Railway, Type: Seasonal Road,
 and Type: National Asphalted Road.
 
  You can see where geobase2osm.py makes similar mappings for Canada, by
 looking at lines 63 to 77 in geobase2osm.py [4].
 
  None of the roads I sampled had names associated with them (even the
 national highway, the name was blank). You'll probably have to match up road
 names to the roads using one of the other data sets?
 
  I would like to help out more, but I'm afraid I don't have the
 experience. I could lend a hand in modifying the SQL tables and
 geobase2osm.py, but I would be of limited help there, and I haven't a clue
 how you would get road names imported. You'll want more expertise help in
 getting the proper toolchain.
 
  [1] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3348/
  [2] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4191/
  [3] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/2462/
  [4]
 http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/geobase2osm/geobase2osm.py
 
  Adam
 
  On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sam Vekemans 
 acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Adam,
  James is looking to use RoadMatcher, i know its on the wiki, but that
  page needs to be fixed.
  Would you be able to explain it?
 
  Personally, i now favour tracing WMS, but for massive areas
  RoadMatcher is the way to go :-)
 
  Also, Robert (Bob) Shand from PEI is currently Itching to also learn
  how its done.
 
  Cheers,
  Sam
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:13:39 -0700
  Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads
  To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
  Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 
  Sounds like you just need to convert SHP to OSM. Then you can upload
 from
  JOSM. There's a script here (though I haven't tried it):
  http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo
 
  On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com 
  jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
   I have been talking to Sam V. who mentioned that you guys are
 experts in
   openjump for road importing.
   before I dig too deep into this myself, let me ask if anyone can
 help me
   with my current problem:
  
   I have these files from a public domain source, projected into
 Lat/Lon
  
   http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/
  
   [image: [ ]] LL_Roads_OSM.dbf
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.dbf
 05-Mar-2010
   07:48 53M  [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.prj
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.prj05-Mar-2010
 07:48 143
 [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shp
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shp05-Mar-2010
 07:48
   35M  [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shx
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shx05-Mar-2010
 07:48
   1.5M
   They are from http://tpginc.net/gis/albania/albania.php
  
   we would like to find the new roads that are not in OSM and import
 them.
   Can anyone help? can you tell me exactly what software to install, I
 am a
   bit confused my the many pages and broken links I found for jump.
  
   thanks,
   mike
  
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Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads

2010-03-18 Thread Adam Dunn
 various attributes in
the shp file to tags that are used by OSM. For example, I opened up the
Roads_OSM.shp file in OpenJUMP (just the way it is, no changes or
reprojections or anything), and I see that one road has the following
properties:
 ID: 175879.0
 Type: Well-Kept Gravel Road
 Category: 2
 Cat2: 20
 Shape_Leng: 0.0
 Name:
 Shape_Le_1: 774.851
 ET_ID: 167693

 Most of these you probably won't care about, but Type: Well-Kept Gravel
Road should be converted to
 surface=gravel;
 and highway=unclassified or residential or track=* depending on what the
Category: 2 and Cat2: 20 mean.

 Another road has Type: Dwelling Area Road, which would probably be
highway=residential;

 I've also seen Type: Village Road, Type: Railway, Type: Seasonal Road, and
Type: National Asphalted Road.

 You can see where geobase2osm.py makes similar mappings for Canada, by
looking at lines 63 to 77 in geobase2osm.py [4].

 None of the roads I sampled had names associated with them (even the
national highway, the name was blank). You'll probably have to match up road
names to the roads using one of the other data sets?

 I would like to help out more, but I'm afraid I don't have the experience.
I could lend a hand in modifying the SQL tables and geobase2osm.py, but I
would be of limited help there, and I haven't a clue how you would get road
names imported. You'll want more expertise help in getting the proper
toolchain.

 [1] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3348/
 [2] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4191/
 [3] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/2462/
 [4]
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/geobase2osm/geobase2osm.py

 Adam

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sam Vekemans 
acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Adam,
 James is looking to use RoadMatcher, i know its on the wiki, but that
 page needs to be fixed.
 Would you be able to explain it?

 Personally, i now favour tracing WMS, but for massive areas
 RoadMatcher is the way to go :-)

 Also, Robert (Bob) Shand from PEI is currently Itching to also learn
 how its done.

 Cheers,
 Sam

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:13:39 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads
 To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
 Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org

 Sounds like you just need to convert SHP to OSM. Then you can upload from
 JOSM. There's a script here (though I haven't tried it):
 http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo

 On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com 
 jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:

  Hi,
  I have been talking to Sam V. who mentioned that you guys are experts
in
  openjump for road importing.
  before I dig too deep into this myself, let me ask if anyone can help
me
  with my current problem:
 
  I have these files from a public domain source, projected into Lat/Lon
 
  http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/
 
  [image: [ ]] LL_Roads_OSM.dbf
http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.dbf
05-Mar-2010
  07:48 53M  [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.prj
http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.prj05-Mar-2010
07:48 143
[image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shp
http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shp05-Mar-2010
07:48
  35M  [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shx
http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shx05-Mar-2010
07:48
  1.5M
  They are from http://tpginc.net/gis/albania/albania.php
 
  we would like to find the new roads that are not in OSM and import
them.
  Can anyone help? can you tell me exactly what software to install, I am
a
  bit confused my the many pages and broken links I found for jump.
 
  thanks,
  mike
 
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Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads

2010-03-18 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
 might also the one you want to use ([3],
 although it looks like you get weird projected bounds with it). I don't know
 why this reprojection is really even necessary. When you look at EPSG 3348
 (the Canadian one), the projected bounds are really weird there as well, so
 maybe it has to be done just to match up with NRN. If the Albania dataset is
 already in Lat/Long and 4191 is in Lat/Long and OSM is in Lat/Long, maybe
 you don't need to reproject at all? Someone with more GIS knowledge should
 know.
 
  You'll also want a script to automatically convert various attributes in
 the shp file to tags that are used by OSM. For example, I opened up the
 Roads_OSM.shp file in OpenJUMP (just the way it is, no changes or
 reprojections or anything), and I see that one road has the following
 properties:
  ID: 175879.0
  Type: Well-Kept Gravel Road
  Category: 2
  Cat2: 20
  Shape_Leng: 0.0
  Name:
  Shape_Le_1: 774.851
  ET_ID: 167693
 
  Most of these you probably won't care about, but Type: Well-Kept Gravel
 Road should be converted to
  surface=gravel;
  and highway=unclassified or residential or track=* depending on what the
 Category: 2 and Cat2: 20 mean.
 
  Another road has Type: Dwelling Area Road, which would probably be
 highway=residential;
 
  I've also seen Type: Village Road, Type: Railway, Type: Seasonal Road,
 and Type: National Asphalted Road.
 
  You can see where geobase2osm.py makes similar mappings for Canada, by
 looking at lines 63 to 77 in geobase2osm.py [4].
 
  None of the roads I sampled had names associated with them (even the
 national highway, the name was blank). You'll probably have to match up road
 names to the roads using one of the other data sets?
 
  I would like to help out more, but I'm afraid I don't have the
 experience. I could lend a hand in modifying the SQL tables and
 geobase2osm.py, but I would be of limited help there, and I haven't a clue
 how you would get road names imported. You'll want more expertise help in
 getting the proper toolchain.
 
  [1] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3348/
  [2] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4191/
  [3] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/2462/
  [4]
 http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/geobase2osm/geobase2osm.py
 
  Adam
 
  On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sam Vekemans 
 acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Adam,
  James is looking to use RoadMatcher, i know its on the wiki, but that
  page needs to be fixed.
  Would you be able to explain it?
 
  Personally, i now favour tracing WMS, but for massive areas
  RoadMatcher is the way to go :-)
 
  Also, Robert (Bob) Shand from PEI is currently Itching to also learn
  how its done.
 
  Cheers,
  Sam
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:13:39 -0700
  Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads
  To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
  Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 
  Sounds like you just need to convert SHP to OSM. Then you can upload
 from
  JOSM. There's a script here (though I haven't tried it):
  http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo
 
  On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com 
  jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
   I have been talking to Sam V. who mentioned that you guys are experts
 in
   openjump for road importing.
   before I dig too deep into this myself, let me ask if anyone can help
 me
   with my current problem:
  
   I have these files from a public domain source, projected into Lat/Lon
  
   http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/
  
   [image: [ ]] LL_Roads_OSM.dbf
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.dbf
 05-Mar-2010
   07:48 53M  [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.prj
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.prj05-Mar-2010
 07:48 143
 [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shp
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shp05-Mar-2010
 07:48
   35M  [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shx
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shx05-Mar-2010
 07:48
   1.5M
   They are from http://tpginc.net/gis/albania/albania.php
  
   we would like to find the new roads that are not in OSM and import
 them.
   Can anyone help? can you tell me exactly what software to install, I
 am a
   bit confused my the many pages and broken links I found for jump.
  
   thanks,
   mike
  
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Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads

2010-03-18 Thread Adam Dunn
 imported. You'll want more expertise help in
 getting the proper toolchain.
 
  [1] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3348/
  [2] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4191/
  [3] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/2462/
  [4]
 http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/geobase2osm/geobase2osm.py
 
  Adam
 
  On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sam Vekemans 
 acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Adam,
  James is looking to use RoadMatcher, i know its on the wiki, but that
  page needs to be fixed.
  Would you be able to explain it?
 
  Personally, i now favour tracing WMS, but for massive areas
  RoadMatcher is the way to go :-)
 
  Also, Robert (Bob) Shand from PEI is currently Itching to also learn
  how its done.
 
  Cheers,
  Sam
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:13:39 -0700
  Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads
  To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
  Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 
  Sounds like you just need to convert SHP to OSM. Then you can upload
 from
  JOSM. There's a script here (though I haven't tried it):
  http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo
 
  On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com 
  jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
   I have been talking to Sam V. who mentioned that you guys are experts
 in
   openjump for road importing.
   before I dig too deep into this myself, let me ask if anyone can help
 me
   with my current problem:
  
   I have these files from a public domain source, projected into
 Lat/Lon
  
   http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/
  
   [image: [ ]] LL_Roads_OSM.dbf
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.dbf
 05-Mar-2010
   07:48 53M  [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.prj
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.prj05-Mar-2010
 07:48 143
 [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shp
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shp05-Mar-2010
 07:48
   35M  [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shx
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shx05-Mar-2010
 07:48
   1.5M
   They are from http://tpginc.net/gis/albania/albania.php
  
   we would like to find the new roads that are not in OSM and import
 them.
   Can anyone help? can you tell me exactly what software to install, I
 am a
   bit confused my the many pages and broken links I found for jump.
  
   thanks,
   mike
  
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Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads

2010-03-17 Thread Adam Dunn
Hi, I was kind of hoping someone more knowledgeable in GIS programming
would've responded first for the following reasons: geobase2osm.py is an
integral part of the whole roadmatching process for Canada, and it's a very
Canadian-specific script (there are chunks of code that deal with naming of
major trunks on a province-by-province basis using if-else programming).

Also, I don't have much experience programming GIS stuff. For example, the
Canadian way of doing this uses EPSG 3348 for projection [1]. I did some
Google searching, and it looks like you would want to use EPSG 4191 for the
Albania area (see [2]), but 2462 might also the one you want to use ([3],
although it looks like you get weird projected bounds with it). I don't know
why this reprojection is really even necessary. When you look at EPSG 3348
(the Canadian one), the projected bounds are really weird there as well, so
maybe it has to be done just to match up with NRN. If the Albania dataset is
already in Lat/Long and 4191 is in Lat/Long and OSM is in Lat/Long, maybe
you don't need to reproject at all? Someone with more GIS knowledge should
know.

You'll also want a script to automatically convert various attributes in the
shp file to tags that are used by OSM. For example, I opened up the
Roads_OSM.shp file in OpenJUMP (just the way it is, no changes or
reprojections or anything), and I see that one road has the following
properties:
ID: 175879.0
Type: Well-Kept Gravel Road
Category: 2
Cat2: 20
Shape_Leng: 0.0
Name:
Shape_Le_1: 774.851
ET_ID: 167693

Most of these you probably won't care about, but Type: Well-Kept Gravel Road
should be converted to
surface=gravel;
and highway=unclassified or residential or track=* depending on what the
Category: 2 and Cat2: 20 mean.

Another road has Type: Dwelling Area Road, which would probably be
highway=residential;

I've also seen Type: Village Road, Type: Railway, Type: Seasonal Road, and
Type: National Asphalted Road.

You can see where geobase2osm.py makes similar mappings for Canada, by
looking at lines 63 to 77 in geobase2osm.py [4].

None of the roads I sampled had names associated with them (even the
national highway, the name was blank). You'll probably have to match up road
names to the roads using one of the other data sets?

I would like to help out more, but I'm afraid I don't have the experience. I
could lend a hand in modifying the SQL tables and geobase2osm.py, but I
would be of limited help there, and I haven't a clue how you would get road
names imported. You'll want more expertise help in getting the proper
toolchain.

[1] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3348/
[2] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4191/
[3] http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/2462/
[4]
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/geobase2osm/geobase2osm.py

Adam

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Adam,
 James is looking to use RoadMatcher, i know its on the wiki, but that
 page needs to be fixed.
 Would you be able to explain it?

 Personally, i now favour tracing WMS, but for massive areas
 RoadMatcher is the way to go :-)

 Also, Robert (Bob) Shand from PEI is currently Itching to also learn
 how its done.

 Cheers,
 Sam

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:13:39 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] call for help, importing roads
 To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
 Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org

 Sounds like you just need to convert SHP to OSM. Then you can upload from
 JOSM. There's a script here (though I haven't tried it):
 http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo

 On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com 
 jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:

  Hi,
  I have been talking to Sam V. who mentioned that you guys are experts in
  openjump for road importing.
  before I dig too deep into this myself, let me ask if anyone can help me
  with my current problem:
 
  I have these files from a public domain source, projected into Lat/Lon
 
  http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/
 
  [image: [ ]] LL_Roads_OSM.dbf
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.dbf
 05-Mar-2010
  07:48 53M  [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.prj
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.prj05-Mar-2010
 07:48 143
[image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shp
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shp05-Mar-2010
 07:48
  35M  [image: [ ]]LL_Roads_OSM.shx
 http://xhema.flossk.org:8080/mapdata/03/MapAction/tpginc/LL_Roads_OSM.shx05-Mar-2010
 07:48
  1.5M
  They are from http://tpginc.net/gis/albania/albania.php
 
  we would like to find the new roads that are not in OSM and import them.
  Can anyone help? can you tell me exactly what software to install, I am a
  bit confused my the many pages and broken links I found for jump.
 
  thanks,
  mike