[Talk-ca] new goodies on OSM

2011-11-25 Thread Richard Weait
Dear All,

The London hack weekend starts in a few hours in London (yay!),
England (oh.)  One of these days I'll organize a hack weekend in
London, Ontario, just for laughs.

Interesting things come out of these hack weekends and sometimes we
see the results right away, like squashed bugs or new tools, and other
times the changes are rolled out on a schedule.  The OSM API change
from 0.5 to 0.6 was largely decided at a previous hack weekend, then
rolled out as scheduled during server maintenance if I recall
correctly.

So, I'm looking forward to interesting things coming out of the hack
weekend.  You might enjoy watching the dev irc channel if you want to
follow some of the discussions going on at the hack weekend, but
really, you have to be there to get the full benefit.

Two new things have appeared on OSM.org in the last two days, before
the hack weekend even started.

Today, the layer selector (the blue + top right of the map) was
changed.  The seldom-updated nonames layer was removed, and two new
layers were added.  The Transport map shows public transportation
infrastructure, and the Open MapQuest map is a general purpose map.
We want more people to understand you can make special purpose maps
from the same OSM data.

Yesterday, a new version of Potlatch2 was provided on the site.
You'll know that you are using the new version when you realize that
you have been using the map zoom buttons on the top left, rather than
their previous top right location.  I didn't even realize that it was
a change when I first saw it.  :-)

Best regards,
Richard

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Re: [Talk-ca] new goodies on OSM

2011-11-26 Thread Gregory
On 25 November 2011 15:04, Richard Weait  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> The London hack weekend starts in a few hours in London (yay!),
> England (oh.)  One of these days I'll organize a hack weekend in
> London, Ontario, just for laughs.
>
If you do, shaun will probably turn up on his bike by mistake.


> Today, the layer selector (the blue + top right of the map) was
> changed.  The seldom-updated nonames layer was removed, and two new
> layers were added.  The Transport map shows public transportation
> infrastructure, and the Open MapQuest map is a general purpose map.
> We want more people to understand you can make special purpose maps
> from the same OSM data.

Before I saw this e-mail I was just thinking now that the transport layer
is more visible, it would be great if people would learn to map bus routes.
It's a bit more tricky due to dealing with relations, so one of the
oh-so-simple weait tutorials would be wonderful to have.

-- 
Gregory
o...@livingwithdragons.com
http://www.livingwithdragons.com
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Re: [Talk-ca] new goodies on OSM --> Canvec artifacts

2011-11-27 Thread Frank Steggink

On 25-11-2011 16:04, Richard Weait wrote:

Dear All,

The London hack weekend starts in a few hours in London (yay!),
England (oh.)  One of these days I'll organize a hack weekend in
London, Ontario, just for laughs.

Interesting things come out of these hack weekends and sometimes we
see the results right away, like squashed bugs or new tools, and other
times the changes are rolled out on a schedule.  The OSM API change
from 0.5 to 0.6 was largely decided at a previous hack weekend, then
rolled out as scheduled during server maintenance if I recall
correctly.

So, I'm looking forward to interesting things coming out of the hack
weekend.  You might enjoy watching the dev irc channel if you want to
follow some of the discussions going on at the hack weekend, but
really, you have to be there to get the full benefit.

Two new things have appeared on OSM.org in the last two days, before
the hack weekend even started.

Today, the layer selector (the blue + top right of the map) was
changed.  The seldom-updated nonames layer was removed, and two new
layers were added.  The Transport map shows public transportation
infrastructure, and the Open MapQuest map is a general purpose map.
We want more people to understand you can make special purpose maps
from the same OSM data.

Yesterday, a new version of Potlatch2 was provided on the site.
You'll know that you are using the new version when you realize that
you have been using the map zoom buttons on the top left, rather than
their previous top right location.  I didn't even realize that it was
a change when I first saw it.  :-)

Best regards,
Richard

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Hi Richard,

Due to the use of Natural Earth (?) as a base layer, certain artifacts 
from the Canvec import become more visible, especially at the lower (<= 
7) zoomlevels. See for example the coastline issues in Atlantic Canada: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.31&lon=-63.13&zoom=7&layers=T . 
Perhaps unintentional, but this rendering can help us a lot cleaning up 
after certain imports. So, I hope this rendering won't be adjusted 
soon... :)


During the import I also strongly suspect that the Canvec data contains 
railroads which do no longer exist. For example, in Québec a part of 
them have been converted to cycleways. Perhaps someone with good 
knowledge about those cycleways can retag them.


Regards,

Frank

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Re: [Talk-ca] new goodies on OSM --> Canvec artifacts

2011-11-27 Thread Paul Norman
> From: Frank Steggink [mailto:stegg...@steggink.org]
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] new goodies on OSM --> Canvec artifacts
> 
> Due to the use of Natural Earth (?) as a base layer, certain artifacts
> from the Canvec import become more visible, especially at the lower (<=
> 7) zoomlevels. See for example the coastline issues in Atlantic Canada:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.31&lon=-63.13&zoom=7&layers=T .
> Perhaps unintentional, but this rendering can help us a lot cleaning up
> after certain imports. So, I hope this rendering won't be adjusted
> soon... :)
>

I sent a message to the user who appears to of done most of the uploads
there, asking if he wants to fix it, or leave it to someone else. It looks
like they were done over existing data (which may of just been the
coastlines) and not correctly tied into the coast.

As a plea to anyone considering CanVec imports near an ocean, reconsider.
These are *very* hard to get right and problems may not be obvious because
the coastlines do not re-render right away. Doing them right is also very
time-consuming because the CanVec tagging on the coast is wrong.


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Re: [Talk-ca] new goodies on OSM --> Canvec artifacts

2012-01-16 Thread Paul Norman
> From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 12:43 AM
> To: 'Frank Steggink'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
> Cc: gravityst...@gmail.com; impo...@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] new goodies on OSM --> Canvec artifacts
> 
> > From: Frank Steggink [mailto:stegg...@steggink.org]
> > Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] new goodies on OSM --> Canvec artifacts
> >
> > Due to the use of Natural Earth (?) as a base layer, certain artifacts
> > from the Canvec import become more visible, especially at the lower
> > (<=
> > 7) zoomlevels. See for example the coastline issues in Atlantic
> Canada:
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.31&lon=-63.13&zoom=7&layers=T .
> > Perhaps unintentional, but this rendering can help us a lot cleaning
> > up after certain imports. So, I hope this rendering won't be adjusted
> > soon... :)
> >
> 
> I sent a message to the user who appears to of done most of the uploads
> there, asking if he wants to fix it, or leave it to someone else. It
> looks like they were done over existing data (which may of just been the
> coastlines) and not correctly tied into the coast.

After getting no response, I am currently working on going through this
user's changesets, which appear to be mainly CanVec imports not conducted in
accordance with the guidelines (not from a separate account) and will be
reverting those done over existing data or that are otherwise badly broken.


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