[Talk-es] Please revert Barcelona stations (was:Re: Barcelona - subway stations and routes.)
Gernot, Sorry again, but wikipedia is known to have data from copyrighted sources, and so it is also a bad source for OSM. Wikipedia as a source for geodata is banned to us, as it was said in the lists once and again. Please, could you revert all changes you made using wikipedia? Not doing so may lead to finally deleting *ALL* your edits. Please, *PLEASE*, use only sources of data that are known to have a license compatible with OSM. If you can't find any, just use the ol' good method of GPS traces. (I know, I know, there are very few sources with compatible licenses. That is why we are creating OSM :-) Thanks, Quico 2009/8/13 Gernot Hillier ger...@hillier.de Hi there! Sorry for self-followup, just wanted to let you know I finished on this topic for now... Gernot Hillier wrote: So if you don't violate any copyright, fell free of mapping what you like, that's OSM. Unfortunately, this information is copyrighted. It should'n be, but it is. So please don't copy. Finally, I found another great resource: Wikipedia has a great series of articles about the Barcelona Metro system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcelona_Metro). Here I could find everything I need - even including geo coordinates for nearly all Metro stations, so it was quite easy to add them to OSM. I now reworked the lines I already mapped and finished the others. Now all data is only based on the Wikipedia information. For now, I'm quite happy with it. L1/L2/L3/L4/L5/L6/L7/L8/L11 are hopefully completely mapped (not all done by me, some were already available). I also reworked the Rodalies lines in Barcelone metropolitan area a bit. Hope you're fine with my additions - I do like them at least. :-D BTW: the tram stations remain as an exercise for someone else. :) -- Gernot ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Please revert Barcelona stations (was:Re: Barcelona - subway stations and routes.)
2009/8/13 Gernot Hillier ger...@hillier.de I also just read through http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-May/036582.html - and a lot of knowledgable people seem to be ok with importing some data from Wikipedia. Yes, and a lot are against, too. Well, and finally, this is *my risk*. Everyone can see in OSM history that I added the data and can prosecute me if he believes there's any chance to win such a court case. The problem isn't that they'll prosecute *you* (OSM data belongs to the OSM foundation, so they'll prosecute OSM), but that all your data and *all future modifications based on that* could be reverted to a state previous to your modifications.. I don't follow the legal list, but the perception I have from reading the common lists about wikipedia imports is: it's not fully safe to do that, so, don't risk. Quico ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Barcelona - subway stations and routes
Hi Gernot 2009/8/12 Gernot Hillier ger...@hillier.de Hi there! First of all, I hope it's ok to contact you in English on this ist - unfortunately, I don't speak a word of Spanish. :-) Some of us speak English, so it's ok. I usually live (and map) in Landshut (http://osm.org/go/0JDdLz), but plan a holiday trip to Barcelona and Pineda De Mar in a few weeks. Hope you enjoy you vacations in Spain! Today, I started planning details of our trip as we plan to get there via Trenhotel from Zurich. And for sure, I want to use OSM for that. :-) Thus said, I had notable problems with the current map of Barcelona - most subway stations are not visible which are the most valuable landmarks for strangers like myself. I took a look on the data and found that for most subway stations, the subway_entrance's are mapped (currently not rendered by Mapnik and only quit small by Osmarender), but not the railway=halt itself. So I took the freedom to tag some nodes of existing railway tracks with the rough position of the station (guessing from the position of the entrances). Hope that's ok for you! I don't think it's ok to map things without been personally there, unless you can use some satellite imagery. For example, in Madrid, some stations have several entrances (1, 2, 3, 4 or even more) and the station may be near one, or in the middle of them. I don't remember how are Barcelona's underground entrances, but I wouldn't map any without been there. Also, why are you using railway=halt? Many railway stations in Barcelona (I don't know if all of them) are railway=station. Which one is halt and which is a station should be decided in place. Also it seems that some metro tracks (routes) are included, but far away from completion. So I wondered whether it would make sense to start adding the rough metro routes to OSM, using http://www.tmb.net/img/genplano.pdf as drawing source. This will lead to a very unprecise and rough metro network - however better then nothing, or? No, don't use that map, since it has copyright (© Ferrocarril Metropolità de Barcelona, S.A). In this case, nothing is better than copied. Regards, Quico Looking forward to hearing your opinion... -- Gernot ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] blogs españoles sobre OSM
Por qué no montas algo como la de los alemanes ? http://www.openstreetmap.de http://www.openstreetmap.org.et/ http://www.openstreetmap.org.za/ Creo recordar que todo el contenido estaba en el SVN y sólo había que traducirlo. 2009/6/12 Ivan Garcia capisc...@gmail.com Hola, me gustaría saber si existen blogs españoles que hablen sobre OSM y se sería posible entonces crear un planet en el sitio www.openstreetmap.es para que no parezca tan vacío. saludos. Iván García. ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] blogs españoles sobre OSM
Pues no lo sé, supongo que Iván, que es quien tiene el dominio contratado. 2009/6/12 Ivan Garcia capisc...@gmail.com Hola Francisco, veo que en http://www.openstreetmap.es/ ya habéis puesto la versión de la página alemana. Si necesitáis ayuda para traducir me comentáis. Quien está llevando a cabo la migración? saludos. 2009/6/12 Francisco R. Santos frsan...@gmail.com Por qué no montas algo como la de los alemanes ? http://www.openstreetmap.de http://www.openstreetmap.org.et/ http://www.openstreetmap.org.za/ Creo recordar que todo el contenido estaba en el SVN y sólo había que traducirlo. 2009/6/12 Ivan Garcia capisc...@gmail.com Hola, me gustaría saber si existen blogs españoles que hablen sobre OSM y se sería posible entonces crear un planet en el sitio www.openstreetmap.es para que no parezca tan vacío. saludos. Iván García. ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-es] Cómo hacerse una calle en Madrid: Pa saje de Modesto Martínez
Mmmm, ¿deberíamos mapear esta calle?: http://www.modestomartinez.com/noticias.html El cartel parece que existe, y se ha utilizado en varios sitios, incluido el boletín oficial de la comunidad de Madrid, pero como ha salido a la luz el modo en que se nombró la calle, igual el ayuntamiento decide quitarle el nombre... Que dilema ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Configuracion de JOSM con la nueva version
2009/4/23 Rodrigo Moya rodr...@gnome-db.org: vaya, pues yo que suelo darle continuamente para que suba los cambios cada 2x3 :-( Pero bueno, el asdf me vale :-) En la lista inglesa llevan unos cuantos correos discutiendo si el commit debe ser obligatorio o no. El API no lo obliga, pero JOSM sí. Básicamente la idea de unos es: es que si es obligatorio, la gente va a meter 'asdf' o mierdas por el estilo ;-), mientras que la del Frederik Ramm es: me da igual, que se vayan acostumbrando a meter comentarios decentes, todo es cuestión de acostumbrarse. ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Buscar en las conversaciones antiguas.
http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-es@openstreetmap.org/info.html 2009/3/27 Marco Fernández marco.m...@gmail.com: Hola! Escribo para saber si es posible hacer búsquedas dentro de las conversaciones archivadas de la lista de correo. Lo digo porque creo que me estoy encontrando con los mismos problemas de novato que ya habéis tenido t...@s y poder tirar de buscador en lugar de ir tanteando las conversaciones mes a mes sería una gran ayuda. Ahí lo dejo. (Y si resulta que hace mil años que eso está implementado decidme dónde buscar por favor! :) Saludos! Marco. ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] geocaching frikis
Y si unimos el frikismo por los mapas con el frikismo por esconder tapers, como hago yo, ¿se es aún más friki? :-) On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Martin (OPENGeoMap) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola: Pensabamos que eramos los únicos frikis que unian GPS y frikismo, pero no. Hay una nueva aficion que se llama geocaching que se trata de esconder tesoros en el monte buscarlos con la ayuda del GPS. Quienes son más firkis ellos o nosotros? :-D . Ellos esconden una tortilla de patatas en un taper debajo de piedras. =-O http://www.geocaching-hispano.com/ Hay que hablar con esta gente y decirles que dejen de esconder tortilla y fabada asturiana y mapeen más!! :-[ -- Regards. Martin ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-es
