Re: [Talk-GB] Cameras?

2008-09-08 Thread Steve Hill
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, Ed Loach wrote:

 I'd like a cheap digital camera to use when I'm out noting things for 
 mapping purposes; our existing camera eats batteries.

I have an old Canon IXUS 400 that I picked up off ebay, which I find is 
pretty reasonable as a simple and small point  shoot for when I don't 
want to lug around my SLR.  I do tend to find that the battery life of the 
camera is the limiting factor when I'm mapping on foot (camera turned on 
the whole time), but the batteries are quite small so carrying a spare 
wouldn't be a problem.

Pretty robust, optical viewfinder, takes compact flash, rechargable 
lithium ion battery, a bit of optical zoom, 4 megapixels and the lens 
seems good enough to make use of the resolution.  I think the newer IXUS 
models have removed the optical viewfinder though, which is a shame.

 Can anyone suggest either a camera or a good comparison website.

http://www.dpreview.com/ is pretty good for comparing cameras.

 Alternatively if anyone can recommend some good quality, reasonably 
 priced, high capacity rechargeable AA batteries that work well in their 
 digital camera then that may work out a cheaper option.

I used to use 4 AA size NiMh cells in my old HP Photosmart 850, which 
seemed to last well enough and you can now get some fairly high capacity 
(2800mAh or more) cells.  NiMh cells do suffer from a short shelf-life 
though, so it is very much a charge just before you need them option, 
whereas lithium ion batteries will hold their charge for ages when not in 
use so your camera can always be ready for use.  But you won't get AA size 
lithium ion cells, so NiMh is about your best option.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Wales mapping action

2008-09-08 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Nick Black wrote:
Sent: 08 September 2008 9:33 AM
To: Talk GB
Subject: [Talk-GB] Wales mapping action

Hello,

Its only a few days until the eagerly anticipated Welsh mapping
weekend. I don't know about you guys, but my preparations are well
underway - pumping bike tyres, charging batteries...  I have a few
ideas / questions:

* Where exactly is the cottage?  Is there an address / postcode?
* BBQ - how about a BBQ on the Sat evening or Sun afternoon?  It may
rain, but thanks to the awesomeness of cheap mass manufacturing, Argos
sell gazeebos for £9.99, which make a great BBQ shelter.  Its more fun
than cooking indoors and I bet there are some great butchers in the
area.
* Mapping planning - I've updated the wiki page to include a mapping
planning section to organise areas to map, preferred mapping regions
* Lifts - I can still give a lift from central London on the Friday
evening, returning Sunday evening.

And I have room for someone from Birmingham on Friday early evening if
anyone wants a ride. Also there is still one space left in the cottage,
would be great to fill it if someone wants to get in touch with Nick
Whitelegg who can't make it now.

Cheers

Andy



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Re: [Talk-GB] Cameras?

2008-09-08 Thread Chris Hill
Have you tried joining your local Freecycle http://www.freecycle.org/ 
group and asking if anyone has a camera?  If you mention OSM that 
spreads the word to a wider audience too.

Cheers, Chris

Ed Loach wrote:
 I'd like a cheap digital camera to use when I'm out noting things for mapping 
 purposes; our existing camera eats batteries.

 Features I'd like:
 * Rechargable battery
 * Optical viewfinder - I struggle to see the LCD display on our current 
 camera in high light levels.
 * Optical zoom higher if possible.
 * Takes memory cards rather than relies on internal memory
 * Megapixel isn't really too important. As long as I can take a photo of a 
 streetsign with optical zoom from the opposite side of the road, that should 
 probably be fine. I don't intend printing these images after all.
 * Splashproof would perhaps be useful if cycling in the rain, though I guess 
 this adds to cost and low cost is important (after all - I do have *a* 
 digital camera, and have to justify the cost of any other).

 Can anyone suggest either a camera or a good comparison website. I tried 
 Jessops who are overpriced, Amazon that don't have optical viewfinder as a 
 data item and Dabs whose website was down. The Jessops site suggested that I 
 can probably do without the splashproof requirement...

 Alternatively if anyone can recommend some good quality, reasonably priced, 
 high capacity rechargeable AA batteries that work well in their digital 
 camera then that may work out a cheaper option. 

 Thanks

 Ed

   

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Re: [Talk-GB] Cameras?

2008-09-08 Thread Michael Collinson
My specs were about the same as yours though I had to drop the 
Optical viewfinder - they are now rare at the lower end.  For brand 
new cameras, I came up with lower cameras in the Canon range (IXUS 
range and/or A450 or some such purely from memory) and in the Nikon 
LX range. Sony Cybershots are also worth looking at if you can live 
with the proprietary memory sticks.

I ended up with a Nikon Coolpix LX18 and am extremely happy with it 
for OSM. The LX16 is slightly cheaper and identical except for lower 
Megapixel.  Operatable one handed on a bike and has a neat BSS 
feature where you just keep pressing the shutter and it takes several 
pictures and saves the least blurred - great for OSM mapping as you 
don't have to steady your hand when pressing the shutter down, it 
just throws the first one away.

- Lower end cameras are improving very quickly. If you see a camera 
in a shop, check model number on the manufacturers web site. If it is 
not there it probably superceded by a better camera for the same price.

- Megapixel. Yes, you can save money here. 2M pixel is perfectly 
adequate for street signs across the road - you probably won't even 
be able to buy that low now.  I normally set my camera down to this 
value as I can take more pictures faster and, I think, with lower 
battery drain storing the photo.

- The newer the camera, but the better the battery life generally

- Optical zoom - I ran some tests and found that x3 is adequate for 
zooming in on street signs across a wide street or average junction 
(at 2M pixel).

- Splashproof - My very ordinary camera is usually useless due to 
rain splash on the lens before I start worrying about it getting 
wet.  Just carry a plastic bag.

Mike

At 02:15 AM 9/8/2008, Ed Loach wrote:
I'd like a cheap digital camera to use when I'm out noting things 
for mapping purposes; our existing camera eats batteries.

Features I'd like:
* Rechargable battery
* Optical viewfinder - I struggle to see the LCD display on our 
current camera in high light levels.
* Optical zoom higher if possible.
* Takes memory cards rather than relies on internal memory
* Megapixel isn't really too important. As long as I can take a 
photo of a streetsign with optical zoom from the opposite side of 
the road, that should probably be fine. I don't intend printing 
these images after all.
* Splashproof would perhaps be useful if cycling in the rain, though 
I guess this adds to cost and low cost is important (after all - I 
do have *a* digital camera, and have to justify the cost of any other).

Can anyone suggest either a camera or a good comparison website. I 
tried Jessops who are overpriced, Amazon that don't have optical 
viewfinder as a data item and Dabs whose website was down. The 
Jessops site suggested that I can probably do without the 
splashproof requirement...

Alternatively if anyone can recommend some good quality, reasonably 
priced, high capacity rechargeable AA batteries that work well in 
their digital camera then that may work out a cheaper option.


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