On 23 Jun 2009, at 13:08, Chris Hill wrote:
> Having looked at this and other counties elsewhere, the coastline in
> some places is clearly a poor choice for the county and regional
> boundary. Off the Northumberland coast the Farne islands and the very
> substantial Holy Island are apparently in the UK, but not in
> Northumberland, which is patently wrong. I think the county
> boundaries
> need to be added just off the coast which would then allow the
> diversion
> out into the sea to include the various islands around our coast.
> I've
> emailed the East Yorkshire council (my local one) to ask them where
> they
> think their boundary lies, but judging by past such requests it will
> take some time for them to reply.
>
> Was the alteration to Bristol part of the addition of the English
> Regions?
I did add the English regions but did also do a lot of work on many
county boundaries to remove obvious errors (such as overruns) and
duplications and to create relations where the way tagging method was
used. With regard to islands I created the Isles of Scilly as exclaves
which works but is a bit tedious to achieve. We can either move the
county boundary out to include islands, or include them as exclaves.
Sounds like a good idea to ask a council about boundaries; lets see
what they say.
I have been adding more relations to the UK Boundaries page as I find
them. Do take a look and add any more you know about. Lots of them
still need attention though.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom/Boundaries
I decided that the place to stop with the main UK Boundaries page was
at the district/borough level to avoid the page getting unmanageable.
Information about wards and parishes should possibly go on the
relevant county page.
Regards,
Peter
>
> Cheers, Chris
>
> Paul Jaggard wrote:
>> Bristol ("City and County") has an interesting boundary - it
>> follows the
>> bank of the River Avon out to the Severn estuary, then takes a
>> large strip
>> out of the Bristol Channel down to a pair of islands beyond Cardiff
>> and
>> Weston-s-M.
>>
>> Seems that the water off the shore of a fair bit of North Somerset
>> belongs
>> to Bristol.
>>
>> A BBC news article about it here:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7019663.stm
>>
>> I traced the boundary from NPE some time ago based on this, but I
>> notice
>> that since then someone has redone the Bristol boundary and has
>> removed the
>> relevant ways, chopping back the water boundary to the end of the
>> Avon.
>>
>> Paul
>> (southglos)
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:45:55 +0100
>> From: Chris Hill
>> Subject: [Talk-GB] Counties and coasts
>> To: Talk GB
>> Message-ID: <4a3f8b13.20...@yahoo.co.uk>
>>
>> I'm interested the relations of the boundaries for counties. I
>> notice
>> that some counties (and recently English Regions) include the way for
>> the coastline (natural=coastline), and some coastal counties do not.
>>
>> I think that coastal counties would benefit from a way to close the
>> boundary, but does it make sense to use the coastline? The coastline
>> way probably indicates cliffs or a sea wall, yet there is often some
>> beach or tidal flats beyond this on the seaward side. I understand
>> that
>> councils are responsible for the beach so the county could be said to
>> extend beyond what we currently mark as the coastline. Does anyone
>> know
>> where council boundaries actually end with respect to the sea and
>> coastline?
>>
>> Cheers, Chris
>>
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