Re: [Talk-GB] "OS boundaries and 'mid-level' mapping data to be released for free re-use including commerically"

2009-11-17 Thread Peter Miller


On 17 Nov 2009, at 18:30, Tom Chance wrote:


2009/11/17 Tom Hughes 
"Data relating to electoral and local authority boundaries as well as
postcode areas would be released for free re-use...


I might be unduly skeptical, especially thinking about some of the  
people now advising the Government on this, but I wonder if the  
consultation exercise will still end up fudging the "free" part,  
i.e. not quite going for a blanket "do what you want" license to get  
around any copyright and other possible legal restrictions.


Still, great if it happened, about time too.


I think a very good and useful test of how 'free' it is will be if it  
can be integrated into OSM or if we need to carry on with our dodgy 50  
yo boundary data. My intention of working hard on the OSM boundary  
data a few months ago was to ensure that we had a credible (poor)  
dataset which would be used unless the OS data was released.


The big test will be if the OS also continue to sell the data as well.  
If they do then it isn't fully free. If they don't then they have  
nothing to loose from making it fully free.


Personally I think we can actually help it become free enough by a  
little appropriate pushing in the intervening period.




Regards,



Peter



Tom


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Re: [Talk-GB] "OS boundaries and 'mid-level' mapping data to be released for free re-use including commerically"

2009-11-17 Thread Tom Chance
2009/11/17 Tom Hughes 

> "Data relating to electoral and local authority boundaries as well as
> postcode areas would be released for free re-use...
>
>
I might be unduly skeptical, especially thinking about some of the people
now advising the Government on this, but I wonder if the consultation
exercise will still end up fudging the "free" part, i.e. not quite going for
a blanket "do what you want" license to get around any copyright and other
possible legal restrictions.

Still, great if it happened, about time too.

Tom


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Re: [Talk-GB] "OS boundaries and 'mid-level' mapping data to be released for free re-use including commerically"

2009-11-17 Thread Tom Hughes
On 17/11/09 16:24, Peter Miller wrote:

> Possibly we have have some accurate boundary information soon! By 'mid-
> level mapping' do they mean Meridian I wonder?

Please to bear in mind this sentence:

"The Government will consult on proposals to make data from Ordnance 
Survey freely available...

so no guarantees yet... I'm sure the OS will have a view they'd like to 
put during the consultation after all ;-)

There is also the small issue of the fact that the consultation is due 
to run until April next year and there's this small matter of a General 
Election coming up around that time...

This is interesting though:

"Data relating to electoral and local authority boundaries as well as 
postcode areas would be released for free re-use...

Do OS even have an (unencumbered) data set for postcode areas?

Tom

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[Talk-GB] "OS boundaries and 'mid-level' mapping data to be released for free re-use including commerically"

2009-11-17 Thread Peter Miller

Possibly we have have some accurate boundary information soon! By 'mid- 
level mapping' do they mean Meridian I wonder?

"MAKING PUBLIC DATA PUBLIC -

"The Prime Minister and Communities Secretary John Denham will today  
announce that the public will have more access to Ordnance Survey maps  
from next year, as part of a Government drive to open up data to  
improve transparency.



"Data relating to electoral and local authority boundaries as well as  
postcode areas would be released for free re-use, including  
commercially.  Mid-scale digital mapping information would also be  
released in the same way.


http://nds.coi.gov.uk/Content/detail.aspx?NewsAreaId=2&ReleaseID=408663&SubjectId=15&DepartmentMode=true



Regards,


Peter Miller

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Re: [Talk-GB] Veterinary

2009-11-17 Thread Chris Hill
Chris Andrew wrote:
> Hi, all.
>
> I'd like to add my local veterinary practice to the map, but can't
> find an appropriate tag.
>
> Does one exist?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris.
>
>   
amenity=veterinary should do it.
It is listed in map features, the amenity section is not in alphabetical 
order but grouped as similar functions, so it gets put in the 
medical-ish stuff.

Cheers, Chris


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Re: [Talk-GB] Veterinary

2009-11-17 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Chris Andrew wrote:
> Hi, all.
> 
> I'd like to add my local veterinary practice to the map, but can't
> find an appropriate tag.
> 
> Does one exist?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris.
> 

OSMDoc has amenity=veterinary as the most-used version of the tag:

http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/amenity/veterinary

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[Talk-GB] Veterinary

2009-11-17 Thread Chris Andrew
Hi, all.

I'd like to add my local veterinary practice to the map, but can't
find an appropriate tag.

Does one exist?

Cheers,

Chris.

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[Talk-GB] New York Times Article

2009-11-17 Thread Bob Kerr
Here is a link to a New York Times article that you may find interesting.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/17/technology/internet/17maps.html?ref=technology
OSM is mentioned later in the article
Cheers
Bob


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