Re: [Talk-GB] Two dozen mapping parties
Hi Andy, Had a couple in mind, firstly a mini-party for Haslemere (surrey) which is partly complete but not totally. I could also do Andover from the priority list as it's quite local to me. Thirdly I'd like to do a larger-scale countryside event in the summer down here in the south somewhere, for footpath mapping - haven't decided where yet though. Nick Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com Sent by: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org 17/02/2010 12:11 To Talk-GB talk-gb@openstreetmap.org cc Subject [Talk-GB] Two dozen mapping parties I think it would be great[1] if we had at least two dozen mapping parties this summer around the UK. So I'm looking for volunteers to help organise them, and ideas for locations. Here's some handy suggestions for places I've found on the wiki: ( ;-P ) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Mapping_Priorities http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Mapping_Secondary_Priorities Currently we have two mapping parties planned, so that's almost 10% of the way to the the first two-dozen. Who wants to start pencilling in dates and locations? Anyone thinking about running a party but is looking for some help? Cheers, Andy [1] See http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2010/02/17/finishing-the-uk-road-network/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] A14 spur - A1(M) section - confusion over designation
On 17 Feb 2010, at 14:47, Jeni wrote: A bit more info on the A14(M) can be found here http://pathetic.org.uk/secretive/a14m/ The most authoritative document is the Special Road order, which indeed calls it the A604(M). None of this is reflected on the ground however. I'd suggest tagging it northbound as A1(M) and southbound as A14 as that would more accurately reflect what is signed. I have reviewed the information on pathetic motorways for the Wikipedia article, however that is very much a secondary source. All the Wikipedia references I have used for this are primary sources except for the photo of the motorway sign heading north which does come from that site. I think it would be a mistake to have different references for each carriageway. I also think it is definitively a motorway classification and both carriageways should be tagged as such. Calling it the A1(M) seems strange when that is what it isn't except on some Navteq mapping. If one will accept a long motorway-link for the road in question then that seems like a reasonable compromise. Happy to hear other views though. Regards, Peter Jenny Peter Miller wrote: There is general confusion about the appropriate reference for the A14 spur between the last exit near Alconbury heading north and the A1(M). Here is a summary of the issues as outlined on the Wikipedia article:- The final 1.2 mile section of the A14 'spur' from the junction with the B1043 to the A1(M) at Alconbury has many inconsistent designations. The scheme page on the Highways Agency website for work carried out in 1996-1998 refers to it as the A14(M)[1] however the map page linked from that page refers to the same section of road as the A604(M).[2] The statutory instrument for the construction of the road in 1993 refers to it as the A604(M).[3] The A14(M)/A604(M) designation is not used on the ground; when heading from the A14 spur onto the A1(M) heading north there a 'motorway' sign just past the B1043 exit without any number of on (see photo in the top right of this page)[4] however when heading south along the A1 it is signed as 'A14'.[5] Online mapping is also inconsistent - the Highway Agency mapping (which uses Navteq data) refers to it as the 'A14(M)',[6] Bing maps (which also uses Navteq mapping) shows it as motorway without any designation[7] and Yahoo maps (which uses Navteq data) shows it as motorway and as the A1(M). Google maps (which uses TeleAtlas data) shows it as a trunk road called A14.[8] I have chosen to tag it as a motorway-link without any associated reference (it was tagged as the A14(M) until I changed it to A14 as 'trunk' but that doesn't seem right). I think using motorway-link avoids creating any confusion for routing purposes by showing references that are not provided on the roadside signs. There are also arguments for tagging it in any of the other ways that are described on the A14 article! Should we add an 'alt-ref' tag, and if so what should be in it, and should we add a note with a link to the Wikipedia article or the the OSM wiki? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Two dozen mapping parties
On 17 Feb 2010, at 14:06, Someoneelse wrote: Andy Allan wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Mapping_Priorities http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Mapping_Secondary_Priorities That's really UK Urban Mapping Priorities though, isn't it? Personally I'd rather know which rural pubs were still open* around the towns concerned than the full map of all of the backstreets. I suspect that the problem is that the places on this list tend not to be places that you'd actively choose to visit in summer. I live not far from Mansfield, so taking that as an example (to avoid being disrespectful to anyone else's home town!), it isn't somewhere that you'd normally go to unless you absolutely had to. Lowestoft is by the sea and on the end of the East Suffolk Line and needs mapping; lots of nice countryside around. ITO would be happy to sponsor pizzas and beer for that one (or whatever)! There are some other smaller towns in Suffolk which are both pretty and need a bit of TLC. I will take a look for some more in the area Regards, Peter Miller ITO World Ltd ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Two dozen mapping parties
On 17/02/2010 14:06, Someoneelse wrote: I suspect that the problem is that the places on this list tend not to be places that you'd actively choose to visit in summer. I live not far from Mansfield, so taking that as an example (to avoid being disrespectful to anyone else's home town!), it isn't somewhere that you'd normally go to unless you absolutely had to. Careful. I was born in Mansfield. The residential areas and suburbs of *any* town aren't places you'd normally go unless you had to, but we do to map them. Mapping Berry Hill or Ladybrook wouldn't be any different to mapping a suburb in any other town in the UK. If you were organising a Mansfield mapping party you'd need to ensure that there was a decent venue available, but that would be the trickiest part, I think. -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Two dozen mapping parties
On Wednesday 17 February 2010, Andy Allan wrote: I think it would be great[1] if we had at least two dozen mapping parties this summer around the UK. So I'm looking for volunteers to help organise them, and ideas for locations. Here's some handy suggestions for places I've found on the wiki: ( ;-P ) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Mapping_Priorities http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Mapping_Secondary_Priorities Currently we have two mapping parties planned, so that's almost 10% of the way to the the first two-dozen. Who wants to start pencilling in dates and locations? Anyone thinking about running a party but is looking for some help? Luton certainly needs some attention. Though I'm relatively nearby, I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to organise anything as I don't know what I'll be doing / where I will be by then. robert. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
