Re: [Talk-GB] Boundaries for Forestry Commission land
On 31 January 2011 14:09, Andy Allan wrote: > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Andrew Black > wrote: > > On 29 January 2011 17:40, Steve Chilton wrote: > >> Not open, but available at magic.defra.co.uk: > >> http://magic.defra.gov.uk/datadoc/metadata.asp?dataset=24 > >> http://magic.defra.gov.uk/datadoc/metadata.asp?dataset=25 > > > > Excuse my ignorance - if the data is not open, how can it be used for > > OSM (or have I missed the point of the question) > > I suspect Peter wanted it for a different purpose than adding it to > OSM - his original request was for it as either open or closed data > after all. > Correct, although anyone would be allowed to overlay the Forestry Commission boundaries onto OSM mapping to create an 'collective work' or a 'collection'. The OSM mapping element would available as ccbysa the boundary data would be (c) crown copyright. He resulting work would be (c) to whoever produced it. Not sure yet what the terms of use of the boundary data is. It would indeed be illegal to build the boundaries into OSM itself. On a separate note, an OSM map with overlaid crime data produced by us is included in the Daily Mail top story today. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1352354/Police-crime-map-website-crashes-75-000-people-MINUTE-log-on.html I will be doing a blog post on the ITO blog soon with some more details maps if anyone is interested. Regards, Peter Miller ITO World Ltd > > Cheers, > Andy > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Boundaries for Forestry Commission land
Hi, On 02/01/2011 04:37 PM, Peter Miller wrote: Correct, although anyone would be allowed to overlay the Forestry Commission boundaries onto OSM mapping to create an 'collective work' or a 'collection'. The OSM mapping element would available as ccbysa the boundary data would be (c) crown copyright. Unless of course they printed it on paper, in which case the whole thing would amalgamate into one complete work that could be published under neither license, and would have to be destroyed ;) Bye Frederik ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Boundaries for Forestry Commission land
On 1 February 2011 15:48, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > > On 02/01/2011 04:37 PM, Peter Miller wrote: > >> Correct, although anyone would be allowed to overlay the Forestry >> Commission boundaries onto OSM mapping to create an 'collective work' or >> a 'collection'. The OSM mapping element would available as ccbysa the >> boundary data would be (c) crown copyright. >> > > Unless of course they printed it on paper, in which case the whole thing > would amalgamate into one complete work that could be published under > neither license, and would have to be destroyed ;) > See you in court then ;) To clarify, the 3.0 license allows ' by reason of the selection and arrangement of their contents, constitute intellectual creations, in which the Work is included in its entirety in unmodified form along with one or more other contributions, each constituting separate and independent works in themselves, which together are assembled into a collective whole' I would consider the proposed resulting work to be 'two or more distinct, separate and independent works selected and arranged into a collective whole with the ccbysa content being used in an entirely unmodified form'. This collection does indeed obscure part of the ccbysa image but I see that as being covered by the term 'assembled '? I also believe it is entirely within the spirit of the license. If you do insist of responding to this post then please copy the response to legal-talk and we will carry on there! Regards, Peter > > Bye > Frederik > > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Tags for waterways
On 01/31/2011 03:54 PM, Chris Moss wrote: 2. That page says issues include "is it navigable by powered craft?" but I can't find the relevant tag. Key:boat only relates to access as far as I can see, not to the type of boat. This could be canoe, rowing boat, powered boat, ship, ... Is this important? Sure, see: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access section Water-based transportation ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Boundaries for Forestry Commission land
Peter, Peter Miller wrote: See you in court then ;) Legal-talk, rather - I've opened up a new thread there! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
