[Talk-GB] New National Cycle Network route 31
Just a heads up to any cycling mappers in the East of England. NCN route 31 between Beccles and Southwold has recently been opened and hasn't been mapped yet. See: http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/beccles_and_southwold_linked_by_new_cycle_route_1_900520 -- Borbus. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] New National Cycle Network route 31
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Borbus bor...@gmail.com wrote: Just a heads up to any cycling mappers in the East of England. NCN route 31 between Beccles and Southwold has recently been opened and hasn't been mapped yet. See: http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/beccles_and_southwold_linked_by_new_cycle_route_1_900520 Looks like it's been mapped, see http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1561929 The opencyclemap layer hasn't been updating for the last few weeks as I've been struggling with performance issues - I turned on the rendering again this morning after more work during the weekend, but I haven't any idea how well it's going to go with so many tiles to update. It could be a while before this route starts showing up. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] New National Cycle Network route 31
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Borbus bor...@gmail.com wrote: Just a heads up to any cycling mappers in the East of England. NCN route 31 between Beccles and Southwold has recently been opened and hasn't been mapped yet. See: http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/beccles_and_southwold_linked_by_new_cycle_route_1_900520 Andy replied: Looks like it's been mapped, see http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1561929 snip For a route that appears to have been mapped it follows quite a few highway=road ways, so I wonder if the source is from surveying on the ground signposts? There is also a short break in the route in Beccles and it looks a bit dubious around where it crosses the A12, so there is perhaps still good reason to get out and survey it (if only to confirm that the =road is =unclassified in most cases). Ed PS: Copied to the mid-Anglia list in case any mappers there aren't on talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Open Data, KCC
I wonder if they would have data relating to on-street-parking restrictions? Steve On 23/05/2011 14:53, Gregory Williams wrote: Not strictly an OSM thing, but I'd also like to see traffic count data released by KCC too. Gregory *From:*Gregory Williams [mailto:gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk] *Sent:* 23 May 2011 10:56 *To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Open Data, KCC Based upon previous discussions with KCC with my cycle campaigning hat on the cycle parking data that KCC hold is far from exhaustive. Also it's of the form outside shop xyz, Some Road, Some Place. So, apart from giving us clues of places to go out and look for cycle parking we haven't mapped yet, it's not terribly useful. Luckily, as far as things go, I think I've mapped pretty much all of the cycle parking in East Kent and quite a bit elsewhere in the county, as is shown on the cycle parking heat map I maintain: http://www.spokeseastkent.org.uk/maps/cycle-parking-heat-map/?zoom=10lat=51.14048lon=0.63703layers=BT http://www.spokeseastkent.org.uk/maps/cycle-parking-heat-map/?zoom=10lat=51.14048lon=0.63703layers=BT I would be very interested in whether KCC are able to release data about maximum speed limits and traffic calming measures in a form that OSM is able to use. My personal preference would be to use this as something to compare against, such that we can assess where our own data isn't complete, rather than as something that would be imported. Gregory *From:*Tom Chance [mailto:t...@acrewoods.net] *Sent:* 22 May 2011 11:28 *To:* TimSC *Cc:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Open Data, KCC Tim, You might like to ask them to provide you with a list of geodata they hold and that they can release (under the PSMA) without any restrictions. I got such a list off Southwark Council and it gave me a few ideas of data that would be useful including trees and cycle parking stands. Tom On 22 May 2011 11:11, TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk mailto:mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: Hi all, I met people from Kent's OpenKent, which is a county council open data initiative [1][2]. They explained their work and I told them about openstreetmap and its community. They said Kent is not as well developed in open data as some councils but they have a long term commitment to improvement. They have some data sets available but they seem to be mainly concerned with expenses, census data and school expenditure so far. They said they are seeking ideas of what data to publish because they need to prioritize their effort in getting the data for which there is a public demand. If you have ideas, I suggest you get in touch. I expect other councils have already done stuff that's interesting and it might be worth making them aware. They also plan to showcase interesting data visualisations based on their data or any Kent related data. It might be good to get publicity for small projects. OpenKent is also seeking ideas and feedback for a (web based?) data visualisation tool they are planning to help the (non-technical) public use the data. I tried to think of data that would be useful to mappers. Obviously the rights of way data would be amazing. The council also holds the parish boundaries data. Some government data sets use parish and electoral boundaries as their areas, so that would be useful to do visualisations. Also the Kent Heritage Tree Project [3] might like the parish boundaries, as apparently many old trees are on or near these boundaries. Having lists of public institutions, possibly with addresses, would be great to validate the OSM database. We can quickly find any schools, public services that we missed. I suspect we will avoid doing imports of data which is not really GIS but we might add data to OSM to make visualisations and mash ups easier (machine tags and data to link to their database rows). Again, they said they would appreciate any ideas. I talked to Noel Hatch and Matthew Kerr. Get in touch with them. :) Regards, TimSC [1] http://www.kent.gov.uk/your_council/open_data.aspx [2] http://openkent.blogspot.com/ [3] http://kentheritagetrees.btcv.org.uk/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Open Data, KCC
I've seen excerpts of that data in reports presented to the various Joint Transport Board meetings, so yes they have it. Gregory From: Steve Doerr [mailto:doerr.step...@gmail.com] Sent: 23 May 2011 14:57 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Open Data, KCC I wonder if they would have data relating to on-street-parking restrictions? Steve On 23/05/2011 14:53, Gregory Williams wrote: Not strictly an OSM thing, but I'd also like to see traffic count data released by KCC too. Gregory From: Gregory Williams [mailto:gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk] Sent: 23 May 2011 10:56 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Open Data, KCC Based upon previous discussions with KCC with my cycle campaigning hat on the cycle parking data that KCC hold is far from exhaustive. Also it's of the form outside shop xyz, Some Road, Some Place. So, apart from giving us clues of places to go out and look for cycle parking we haven't mapped yet, it's not terribly useful. Luckily, as far as things go, I think I've mapped pretty much all of the cycle parking in East Kent and quite a bit elsewhere in the county, as is shown on the cycle parking heat map I maintain: http://www.spokeseastkent.org.uk/maps/cycle-parking-heat-map/?zoom=10 http://www.spokeseastkent.org.uk/maps/cycle-parking-heat-map/?zoom=10lat=5 1.14048lon=0.63703layers=BT lat=51.14048lon=0.63703layers=BT I would be very interested in whether KCC are able to release data about maximum speed limits and traffic calming measures in a form that OSM is able to use. My personal preference would be to use this as something to compare against, such that we can assess where our own data isn't complete, rather than as something that would be imported. Gregory From: Tom Chance [mailto:t...@acrewoods.net] Sent: 22 May 2011 11:28 To: TimSC Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Open Data, KCC Tim, You might like to ask them to provide you with a list of geodata they hold and that they can release (under the PSMA) without any restrictions. I got such a list off Southwark Council and it gave me a few ideas of data that would be useful including trees and cycle parking stands. Tom On 22 May 2011 11:11, TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: Hi all, I met people from Kent's OpenKent, which is a county council open data initiative [1][2]. They explained their work and I told them about openstreetmap and its community. They said Kent is not as well developed in open data as some councils but they have a long term commitment to improvement. They have some data sets available but they seem to be mainly concerned with expenses, census data and school expenditure so far. They said they are seeking ideas of what data to publish because they need to prioritize their effort in getting the data for which there is a public demand. If you have ideas, I suggest you get in touch. I expect other councils have already done stuff that's interesting and it might be worth making them aware. They also plan to showcase interesting data visualisations based on their data or any Kent related data. It might be good to get publicity for small projects. OpenKent is also seeking ideas and feedback for a (web based?) data visualisation tool they are planning to help the (non-technical) public use the data. I tried to think of data that would be useful to mappers. Obviously the rights of way data would be amazing. The council also holds the parish boundaries data. Some government data sets use parish and electoral boundaries as their areas, so that would be useful to do visualisations. Also the Kent Heritage Tree Project [3] might like the parish boundaries, as apparently many old trees are on or near these boundaries. Having lists of public institutions, possibly with addresses, would be great to validate the OSM database. We can quickly find any schools, public services that we missed. I suspect we will avoid doing imports of data which is not really GIS but we might add data to OSM to make visualisations and mash ups easier (machine tags and data to link to their database rows). Again, they said they would appreciate any ideas. I talked to Noel Hatch and Matthew Kerr. Get in touch with them. :) Regards, TimSC [1] http://www.kent.gov.uk/your_council/open_data.aspx [2] http://openkent.blogspot.com/ [3] http://kentheritagetrees.btcv.org.uk/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Open Data, KCC
I have been informed that the beta OpenKent site, with more data and visualisation tools is here: http://www.openkent.org.uk/ Some things that caught my eye: lists of librarys, GPs, opticians, pharmacy, KCC offices, medway car parks, schools. This would be good for validation, as I said. As well as what has already been mentioned (speed limits, etc), we could also do with lists of post offices, alchohol licensed buildings, sure starts (kindergartens), petrol stations (or petrol storage), public telephones*, taxi ranks*, dentists*, arts centres, public art, law courts, crematoria, fire stations, police stations, council grave yards*, markets*, prisons, recycling points, public toilets, places of worship*, parks, landfills, allotments, sports centres, tourist information offices, museums, highway maintenance depots, quarries, planning permissions, amusements, auction licenses, animal boardings, pet shops, tattoo shops, sex establishments, horse riding establishments, gambling locations, zoos, trees (apparently the highway authority has a tree database), park parks (including outside medway), highway renaming, new highway designations, changes to rights of way, all business premises did I miss anything?! If that is too much, we can prioritise our request to the council. We might start by asking for data that no one else has on their map and that is hard to comprehensively survey without their information. (Remember, I am not proposing to import anything yet, just to check against what the council has.) Hackey council has a list of many things they license, on the web [1], which is good for ideas. * that is if the council holds the data. If people can think of more data sets, we can put together a doodle poll to find the most wanted and to provide some justification (i.e. public demand) for us requesting the data. Btw, I found the parish data I was looking for in OS OpenData, so no need to pester the council for that. TimSC [1] http://www.hackney.gov.uk/licensing.htm On 23/05/11 16:10, Gregory Williams wrote: I've seen excerpts of that data in reports presented to the various Joint Transport Board meetings, so yes they have it. Gregory ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Reminder: 3rd Nottingham Pub Meet-up Tuesday 24th May
Just a quick reminder that I (and I hope some others) will be at the Lincolnshire Poacher from 19:30 tomorrow night for Nottingham area pub meet-up. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup Providing the weather isn't too bad I'll be there at 18:30, so that we can do something similar to what we did last month. We'll do something slightly different (Mapperley Park and/or Rock Cemetery). I'll have Walking Papers for the chosen areas so that there'll be a chance to write stuff down. Obvious topics for discussion in the pub: the Fosse Way widening (I've now got a reasonable line all the way to Newark), perhaps follow-up on Kev's revision of the local cycle network. Cheers, Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
