[Talk-GB] OSM session at Wikimania 2014
Hi Andy, Looks great. Don't forget that we have a wiki as part of OpenStreetMap. There are some really simple tasks that Wikimedia folk could help us with. For example setting up a bot to fix our ridiculous number of double redirects: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:DoubleRedirects It's not all big projects - little ones are also much appreciated :-D Best, Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Update: Deploying our own version of NYPL Building Inspector
Well we can certainly get on with the website. The bits that people fix are only the major issues (processed as individual buildings) so I don't think they'll fix any "terrace gap" issues. I was hoping to use Strava Slide before people start manually fixing but we could always do it after instead (and then just eyeball it ourselves for any new errors). So we can ignore the old github repo and use the new one then? I'm busy this week but will aim to look at the website from next week. If anyone has some good images we could use in place of the default NYPL ones then shout :-) Rob On 2 June 2014 15:15, Tim Waters wrote: > Hi folks, > > here's my thoughts > > Moving forward: > Remember that people will fix the automatic vectorisations if they are off > - they can also add extra buildings if need be also. > I think we have enough to move it forward and see what happens. As the > NYPL Building Inspector says: "Don't let perfect be the enemy of good" > > Branding: > Yes I think it should be branded an OHM project - but with space for > donors and supporters particularly if other organisations apart from NLS > want to get involved. > I've also forked the project into the OpenHistoricalMap repo > https://github.com/OpenHistoricalMap/building-inspector as I think that's > the best place for it (not sure why I didn't do that at first, tbh) > > cheers, > > Tim > > > On 1 June 2014 18:25, Rob Nickerson wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> An update on progress deploying our own version of NYPL's historic map >> vectorizer/building inspector tool [1]. >> >> >>1. Chris Fleet from National Library of Scotland (NLS) has kindly >>provided a couple of GeoTiff example scans from their London 1890's maps >>[2]. >>2. Using the NYPL map-vectorizer [3] I am able to get initial >>building outlines from these maps. >>3. Tim Waters has managed to get a copy of the NYPL website up ready >>for loading NLS's maps/vectorized buildings. This is at [4]. Meanwhile he >>has opened initial conversations with the British Library who also have a >>good collection of historic maps. >>4. I am concerned that the initial building outlines end up leaving >>gaps between terraced buildings. This is due to the way that the NYPL >>map-vecotrizer works to trace the _inside_ of buildings. I'm no GIS expert >>so may be missing a simple solution. However I have noticed that we could >>use the Strava Slide tool [5] to 'slide' the building polygons onto the >>building walls. In essence this works by using pixel "blackness" of the >> map >>scan (rather than GPS traces as per the initial Strava Slide tool). >>5. I have contacted Paul at Strava to ask about this. He thinks the >>idea is a really good one and is hoping to add the functionality we will >>require. He's a bit busy at the moment but is presenting at FOSS4G (in >>September?) and would like to use this as an example of what's possible >>with slide. >> >> So, where does this leave us? Well we're at the same place as NYPL so >> could go ahead with adapting the website Tim put up to our needs and then >> launch when ready. Or, we could hold off until Paul at Strava is able to >> add the functionality we need to the Slide tool. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Also, are folks happy for this to be branded as an OpenHistoricalMap >> project? (Chris at NLS is okay with this). >> >> Regards, >> Rob >> >> [1] http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/ >> [2] http://maps.nls.uk/os/london-1890s/index.html >> [3] https://github.com/NYPL/map-vectorizer >> [4] http://leatherwood.herokuapp.com/ >> [5] http://labs.strava.com/slide/ >> > > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Update: Deploying our own version of NYPL Building Inspector
Hi folks, here's my thoughts Moving forward: Remember that people will fix the automatic vectorisations if they are off - they can also add extra buildings if need be also. I think we have enough to move it forward and see what happens. As the NYPL Building Inspector says: "Don't let perfect be the enemy of good" Branding: Yes I think it should be branded an OHM project - but with space for donors and supporters particularly if other organisations apart from NLS want to get involved. I've also forked the project into the OpenHistoricalMap repo https://github.com/OpenHistoricalMap/building-inspector as I think that's the best place for it (not sure why I didn't do that at first, tbh) cheers, Tim On 1 June 2014 18:25, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Hi All, > > An update on progress deploying our own version of NYPL's historic map > vectorizer/building inspector tool [1]. > > >1. Chris Fleet from National Library of Scotland (NLS) has kindly >provided a couple of GeoTiff example scans from their London 1890's maps >[2]. >2. Using the NYPL map-vectorizer [3] I am able to get initial building >outlines from these maps. >3. Tim Waters has managed to get a copy of the NYPL website up ready >for loading NLS's maps/vectorized buildings. This is at [4]. Meanwhile he >has opened initial conversations with the British Library who also have a >good collection of historic maps. >4. I am concerned that the initial building outlines end up leaving >gaps between terraced buildings. This is due to the way that the NYPL >map-vecotrizer works to trace the _inside_ of buildings. I'm no GIS expert >so may be missing a simple solution. However I have noticed that we could >use the Strava Slide tool [5] to 'slide' the building polygons onto the >building walls. In essence this works by using pixel "blackness" of the map >scan (rather than GPS traces as per the initial Strava Slide tool). >5. I have contacted Paul at Strava to ask about this. He thinks the >idea is a really good one and is hoping to add the functionality we will >require. He's a bit busy at the moment but is presenting at FOSS4G (in >September?) and would like to use this as an example of what's possible >with slide. > > So, where does this leave us? Well we're at the same place as NYPL so > could go ahead with adapting the website Tim put up to our needs and then > launch when ready. Or, we could hold off until Paul at Strava is able to > add the functionality we need to the Slide tool. > > Thoughts? > > Also, are folks happy for this to be branded as an OpenHistoricalMap > project? (Chris at NLS is okay with this). > > Regards, > Rob > > [1] http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/ > [2] http://maps.nls.uk/os/london-1890s/index.html > [3] https://github.com/NYPL/map-vectorizer > [4] http://leatherwood.herokuapp.com/ > [5] http://labs.strava.com/slide/ > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OSM session at Wikimania 2014
Congrats Andy, I hope it goes well. I've been surprised by the fairly strong resistance to bot edits in OSM, which I believe are pretty common in wikipedia (?). I personally think they're a good thing as long as they're doing uncontroversial stuff, but I guess you may need to factor that into your plans. But anyway that's not feedback on the talk. The abstract looks good and I hope you convert a few more wikimedians! Dan 2014-06-02 12:11 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett : > I've had a session pitch accepted, to speak about OSM at Wikimania > 2014 (the annual Wikipedia/ Wikimedia conference; their equivalent of > "State of the map"), held this year in London, in August.. My pitch is > at: > > > http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/OpenStreetMap_-_what_is_it_and_what_does_it_mean_for_Wikimedians%3F > > Any suggestions for other things I should include will be welcome, and > I hope to meet some of you there. > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OSM session at Wikimania 2014
Fantastic Andy. I'll be attending :-) Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 2 June 2014 12:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 2 June 2014 12:11, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > I've had a session pitch accepted, to speak about OSM at Wikimania > > 2014 (the annual Wikipedia/ Wikimedia conference; their equivalent of > > "State of the map"), held this year in London, in August. > > P.S. The talk will be on Saturday afternoon, 9 August, at 2.30pm > > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OSM session at Wikimania 2014
On 2 June 2014 12:11, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I've had a session pitch accepted, to speak about OSM at Wikimania > 2014 (the annual Wikipedia/ Wikimedia conference; their equivalent of > "State of the map"), held this year in London, in August. P.S. The talk will be on Saturday afternoon, 9 August, at 2.30pm -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] OSM session at Wikimania 2014
I've had a session pitch accepted, to speak about OSM at Wikimania 2014 (the annual Wikipedia/ Wikimedia conference; their equivalent of "State of the map"), held this year in London, in August.. My pitch is at: http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/OpenStreetMap_-_what_is_it_and_what_does_it_mean_for_Wikimedians%3F Any suggestions for other things I should include will be welcome, and I hope to meet some of you there. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
