Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub.
One thing that surprised me was 61 miles from a lighthouse as (and I don't know this) I'd have guessed that some of the central parts of England would be getting on for 100 miles from the sea. But my geography of that part of the world isn't great so I'm probably wrong... Nick -Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm Date: 11/06/2014 09:53PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. On 2014-06-08 16:28, Dan S wrote: Hi all, In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. http://mcld.co.uk/feet-from-a-rat/pub.html And luckily, in mainland Britain, you are never more than 30 miles from a public toilet. http://mcld.co.uk/feet-from-a-rat/public-toilet.html Several of the calculations seem to be including the Mull as part of mainland Britain, ie churches and golf courses. It is definitely an island. As for public toilets, must be a few missing from the map. I think there's toilets in Thurso and Bettyhill, though it has been a few years since I visited these. Craig ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub.
On 12/06/14 11:12, Nick Whitelegg wrote: One thing that surprised me was 61 miles from a lighthouse as (and I don't know this) I'd have guessed that some of the central parts of England would be getting on for 100 miles from the sea. But my geography of that part of the world isn't great so I'm probably wrong... Nowhere in Britain is more than 70 miles away from the coast (Coton in Derbyshire is the furthest), and some lighthouses are not especially close to the sea - there are some near tidal rivers. So 61 miles is very plausible. Jon. -- Dr Jonathan Harley :Managing Director: SpiffyMap Ltd j...@spiffymap.net mobile: 07590 024028 www.spiffymap.com The Venture Centre, Sir William Lyons Road, Coventry CV4 7EZ, UK ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub.
I think it depends on your definition of 'sea' - and probably the definition of lighthouse too! There's a lighthouse in Tower Hamlets - as well as some in the Scottish lochs. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 12 June 2014 11:12, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: One thing that surprised me was 61 miles from a lighthouse as (and I don't know this) I'd have guessed that some of the central parts of England would be getting on for 100 miles from the sea. But my geography of that part of the world isn't great so I'm probably wrong... Nick -Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm Date: 11/06/2014 09:53PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. On 2014-06-08 16:28, Dan S wrote: Hi all, In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. http://mcld.co.uk/feet-from-a-rat/pub.html And luckily, in mainland Britain, you are never more than 30 miles from a public toilet. http://mcld.co.uk/feet-from-a-rat/public-toilet.html Several of the calculations seem to be including the Mull as part of mainland Britain, ie churches and golf courses. It is definitely an island. As for public toilets, must be a few missing from the map. I think there's toilets in Thurso and Bettyhill, though it has been a few years since I visited these. Craig ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub.
And here is the Wikipedia quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coton_in_the_Elms Distance from coast[edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coton_in_the_Elmsaction=editsection=3 ] Southeast of the village – at grid reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_national_grid_reference_system SK253144 http://toolserver.org/~rhaworth/os/coor_g.php?pagename=Coton_in_the_Elmsparams=SK253144_region%3AGB_scale%3A25000 – is Church Flatts Farm, which is defined by the Ordnance Survey as the farthest point from the sea (at the mean low water line) in Great Britain. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coton_in_the_Elms#cite_note-BBC-1 The location is Latitude: 52° 43.6' N Longitude: 1° 37.2' W. Coton is, by definition, equidistant from Fosdyke Wash http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fosdyke in Lincolnshire; White Sands between Neston http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neston in Cheshire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire and Flint, Flintshire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint,_Flintshire in Wales; and Westbury-on-Severn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westbury-on-Severn in Gloucestershire – all of which are 113 kilometres (70 mi) away.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coton_in_the_Elms#cite_note-BBC-1[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coton_in_the_Elms#cite_note-OS-2 so it mean low water line. And low water of course doesn't happen at the same time around the country... so in real live you could argue it moves around all the time (I am getting quite pedantic now IMHO). Thomas On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I think it depends on your definition of 'sea' - and probably the definition of lighthouse too! There's a lighthouse in Tower Hamlets - as well as some in the Scottish lochs. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 12 June 2014 11:12, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: One thing that surprised me was 61 miles from a lighthouse as (and I don't know this) I'd have guessed that some of the central parts of England would be getting on for 100 miles from the sea. But my geography of that part of the world isn't great so I'm probably wrong... Nick -Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm Date: 11/06/2014 09:53PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. On 2014-06-08 16:28, Dan S wrote: Hi all, In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. http://mcld.co.uk/feet-from-a-rat/pub.html And luckily, in mainland Britain, you are never more than 30 miles from a public toilet. http://mcld.co.uk/feet-from-a-rat/public-toilet.html Several of the calculations seem to be including the Mull as part of mainland Britain, ie churches and golf courses. It is definitely an island. As for public toilets, must be a few missing from the map. I think there's toilets in Thurso and Bettyhill, though it has been a few years since I visited these. Craig ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub.
Actually that's further north than I expected... I always thought it was somewhere near Coventry, I'd have put Derbyshire closer to the sea as in the Mersey/Dee estuary. I guess the Coventry area is nearer the North Sea than I thought (the part of England between the M1 and the east coast is probably the part of England I know least well) as it's a fair way from Bristol and Liverpool. -thomas van der veen th.vanderv...@gmail.com wrote: - To: Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk From: thomas van der veen th.vanderv...@gmail.com Date: 12/06/2014 11:45AM Cc: Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk, Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. And here is the Wikipedia quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coton_in_the_Elms Distance from coast[edit] Southeast of the village – at grid reference SK253144 – is Church Flatts Farm, which is defined by the Ordnance Survey as the farthest point from the sea (at the mean low water line) in Great Britain.[1] The location is Latitude: 52° 43.6' N Longitude: 1° 37.2' W. Coton is, by definition, equidistant from Fosdyke Wash in Lincolnshire; White Sands between Neston in Cheshire and Flint, Flintshire in Wales; and Westbury-on-Severn in Gloucestershire – all of which are 113 kilometres (70 mi) away.[1][2] so it mean low water line. And low water of course doesn't happen at the same time around the country... so in real live you could argue it moves around all the time (I am getting quite pedantic now IMHO). Thomas On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I think it depends on your definition of 'sea' - and probably the definition of lighthouse too! There's a lighthouse in Tower Hamlets - as well as some in the Scottish lochs. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. On 12 June 2014 11:12, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: One thing that surprised me was 61 miles from a lighthouse as (and I don't know this) I'd have guessed that some of the central parts of England would be getting on for 100 miles from the sea. But my geography of that part of the world isn't great so I'm probably wrong... Nick -Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm Date: 11/06/2014 09:53PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. On 2014-06-08 16:28, Dan S wrote: Hi all, In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. http://mcld.co.uk/feet-from-a-rat/pub.html And luckily, in mainland Britain, you are never more than 30 miles from a public toilet. http://mcld.co.uk/feet-from-a-rat/public-toilet.html Several of the calculations seem to be including the Mull as part of mainland Britain, ie churches and golf courses. It is definitely an island. As for public toilets, must be a few missing from the map. I think there's toilets in Thurso and Bettyhill, though it has been a few years since I visited these. Craig ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub.
That's true... Westbury on Severn is a good deal further inland than one would normally think of as sea. I'd have said the point at which the Severn becomes the Bristol Channel (not sure how that is defined) is where river becomes sea... so that would reduce the distance to the sea of anywhere inland a fair bit. Nick -Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: - To: Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk From: Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk Date: 12/06/2014 11:34AM Cc: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. I think it depends on your definition of 'sea' - and probably the definition of lighthouse too! There's a lighthouse in Tower Hamlets - as well as some in the Scottish lochs. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. On 12 June 2014 11:12, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: One thing that surprised me was 61 miles from a lighthouse as (and I don't know this) I'd have guessed that some of the central parts of England would be getting on for 100 miles from the sea. But my geography of that part of the world isn't great so I'm probably wrong... Nick -Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm Date: 11/06/2014 09:53PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. On 2014-06-08 16:28, Dan S wrote: Hi all, In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. http://mcld.co.uk/feet-from-a-rat/pub.html And luckily, in mainland Britain, you are never more than 30 miles from a public toilet. http://mcld.co.uk/feet-from-a-rat/public-toilet.html Several of the calculations seem to be including the Mull as part of mainland Britain, ie churches and golf courses. It is definitely an island. As for public toilets, must be a few missing from the map. I think there's toilets in Thurso and Bettyhill, though it has been a few years since I visited these. Craig ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub.
(not sure how that is defined) is where river becomes sea I think it where there is no more tidal effect no the river, so it can reach quite far in land in some case. But please don't quote me on that ;) Thomas On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: That's true... Westbury on Severn is a good deal further inland than one would normally think of as sea. I'd have said the point at which the Severn becomes the Bristol Channel (not sure how that is defined) is where river becomes sea... so that would reduce the distance to the sea of anywhere inland a fair bit. Nick -Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: - To: Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk From: Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk Date: 12/06/2014 11:34AM Cc: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. I think it depends on your definition of 'sea' - and probably the definition of lighthouse too! There's a lighthouse in Tower Hamlets - as well as some in the Scottish lochs. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 12 June 2014 11:12, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: One thing that surprised me was 61 miles from a lighthouse as (and I don't know this) I'd have guessed that some of the central parts of England would be getting on for 100 miles from the sea. But my geography of that part of the world isn't great so I'm probably wrong... Nick -Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm Date: 11/06/2014 09:53PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. On 2014-06-08 16:28, Dan S wrote: Hi all, In mainland Britain, you are never more than 34 miles from a pub. http://mcld.co.uk/feet-from-a-rat/pub.html And luckily, in mainland Britain, you are never more than 30 miles from a public toilet. http://mcld.co.uk/feet-from-a-rat/public-toilet.html Several of the calculations seem to be including the Mull as part of mainland Britain, ie churches and golf courses. It is definitely an island. As for public toilets, must be a few missing from the map. I think there's toilets in Thurso and Bettyhill, though it has been a few years since I visited these. Craig ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
