Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] State of the Map 2013 Birmingham
Mary, That was almost a year ago - I'd be surprised if anyone remembers!! In any case why would you like to know? Rob On 10 Aug 2014 05:55, mooney.osm mooney@gmail.com wrote: I vaguely remember someone asking if there was a spare delegate badge. I think his name began with a G. Does anyone remember this message or am I having a senior moment? Mary Sent from Samsung tablet ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of British canals.
On 06/08/2014 19:17, richard wrote: Firstly a disclaimer, I am mostly an armchair mapper. I am working my way around the canals of Britain, tracing the canal banks and tidying up locks etc. (I have probably seen a dozen different ways that locks have been tagged.) (on the more general point) How are you handling access rights and restrictions, and mapping of the surface, width, and other attributes? Do you have a way of communicating with local mappers to ensure that those important details get filled in? and I have changed these as I have realigned them. What have you realigned them to? Bing imagery (and if so, how do you know how accurate it is there?) or GPS traces (and if so, how do you know whether a trace was from one bank, the other, or a boat on the canal itself? To get the _best_ map surely you'd need to actually visit the canals in question so that you can categorically say this GPS trace is from X bank on at least one of the traces? More important even than GPS traces is just getting a sense of what something looks like (e.g. is this a footpath that people can cycle on or a cycleway that people can walk on?) Obviously there are some features that can't be mapped completely from a visit (the interior of private woodland, for example), but even there, checking from the exterior that the feature still exists where less up-to-date sources (Bing, OS OpenData) thought it did is still worthwhile. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation
On 05/08/2014 07:58, Pavlo Dudka wrote: Not, it is not a job for external services. It is much better to use single service(OSM) rather than multiple(OSM+Wikidata). Personally, I'd argue that OSM isn't a service so much as a large lump of data. It has services, but these are designed for mappers rather than for general use. You can, of course, create your own services based on OSM data (and many people do). OpenStreetMap supports multiple names - let's use it. If you don't like someone use some tags - just ignore those tags. OSM actually has a more general problem with names. For example, various people have (with the best of intentions) tried to fill in names where in reality there are none. For example, this road: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/143924826/history doesn't have a name (as far as the highway authority is concerned). A previous mapper thought that it ought to have a name, and came up with Doveridge Bypass. Following discussion on talk-gb, other local users of the road came forward and said that they didn't believe that it had a name either. It's important that anything added to OSM is verifiable by other on-the-ground mappers (and is either from on-the-ground survey or from a source with an appropriate licence, of course). No-one's arguing that real, used-by-human-beings, exists-on-a-sign, names should be excluded - but there needs to be a check to ensure that made up names (like Doveridge Bypass) are excluded, as their inclusion devalues the information within OSM that does actually exist and is verifiable. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
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Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation
Single words have no copyright [1]. If he didn't copy it from any database which is affected by the database right [2] it's ok to add them to OSM. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Obtaining_and_enforcing_copyright [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sui_generis_database_right Under what licence was it made available? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation
Can I apply this reasoning to English names for Belgian towns as well ? Where can I verify that the English name for Antwerpen is Antwerp ? What is the source of this data? Under which license was that made available ? How can someone who's local to Antwerp actually verify that the name that you've added is correct? Just wondering :-) regards m On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:31 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 04/08/2014 16:15, Pavlo Dudka wrote: Hi! I would like to add ukrainian names for cities of UK, but found that SomeoneElse_Revert removed some of name:uk-tags in changeset 20757217 with a comment reverting undiscussed Ukrainian translations including ones for which there's nothing on the ground. This is the list of cities I plan to modify: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4rF I notice that you've now decided to upload this changeset adding Ukrainian names for places: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24588556 Taking for example Nottingham: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/24913081 What is the source of this data? Under what licence was it made available? How can someone who's local to Nottingham actually verify that the name that you've added is correct? For the record it looks like a simple soundalike translation of Nottingham from one alphabet to another, rather than a unique name at all. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
