[Talk-GB] Confused over access...

[Stuart Reynolds]

Hi

Very quickly, if I have a road that is for bus/psv use, and is tagged like this:

Access=no
Bus=yes
Psv=yes

does that mean that buses are, or aren't, allowed to use it? Currently the bus 
lane around Preston Bus Station is coded this way, but my contractor isn't 
treating it as a bus lane, and before I go and  hassle the contractor I thought 
I would check my understanding. I got the impression that access=no took 
everything out.

Thanks.

Stuart

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Re: [Talk-GB] Confused over access...

[Dan S]

2014-10-14 17:02 GMT+01:00 Stuart Reynolds :
> Hi
>
>
>
> Very quickly, if I have a road that is for bus/psv use, and is tagged like
> this:
>
>
>
> Access=no
>
> Bus=yes
>
> Psv=yes
>
>
>
> does that mean that buses are, or aren’t, allowed to use it?

Are. The more specific access rules should override the general one.

> Currently the
> bus lane around Preston Bus Station is coded this way, but my contractor
> isn’t treating it as a bus lane, and before I go and  hassle the contractor
> I thought I would check my understanding. I got the impression that
> access=no took everything out.

Maybe they didn't explicitly think through what to do when there are
multiple access tags on one object. Easily done...

Best
Dan

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Re: [Talk-GB] Confused over access...

[Shaun McDonald]

Hi Stuart,

The bus=yes and psv=yes override the access=no to say only buses/public service 
vehicles can use the road.

The access=no says ignore the normal defaults for access on the road, and 
instead use the access values included in this object instead.

I hope that clarifies things.

Shaun

> On 14 Oct 2014, at 17:02, Stuart Reynolds  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi
>  
> Very quickly, if I have a road that is for bus/psv use, and is tagged like 
> this:
>  
> Access=no
> Bus=yes
> Psv=yes
>  
> does that mean that buses are, or aren’t, allowed to use it? Currently the 
> bus lane around Preston Bus Station is coded this way, but my contractor 
> isn’t treating it as a bus lane, and before I go and  hassle the contractor I 
> thought I would check my understanding. I got the impression that access=no 
> took everything out.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Stuart
>  
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> For traveline south east & anglia
>  
> email: stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk 
> 
> mob: 07788 106165
> skype: stuartjreynolds
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Re: [Talk-GB] Confused over access...

[Ed Loach]

The more specific access tags take priority over the more general,
so in your example access=no precludes all traffic, but bus=yes and
psv=yes means buses and taxis are allowed. 

 

See
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access#Transport_mode_restric
tions

 

I am surprised there is no foot=yes tag (or perhaps access=no should
be motor_vehicle=no).

 

Ed

 

From: Stuart Reynolds [mailto:stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk] 
Sent: 14 October 2014 17:02
To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] Confused over access...

 

Hi

 

Very quickly, if I have a road that is for bus/psv use, and is
tagged like this:

 

Access=no

Bus=yes

Psv=yes

 

does that mean that buses are, or aren’t, allowed to use it?
Currently the bus lane around Preston Bus Station is coded this way,
but my contractor isn’t treating it as a bus lane, and before I go
and  hassle the contractor I thought I would check my understanding.
I got the impression that access=no took everything out.

 

Thanks.

 

Stuart

 

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Re: [Talk-GB] Confused over access...

[Stuart Reynolds]

Ed,

There isn't a foot=yes tag because that particular road isn't walkable. There 
are two at-grade zebras from the street outside, and a tunnel, that take you up 
into the bus station. Think of it like an airport - the bus road is like the 
airport tarmac and gates, and the bus station is like the terminal building, 
accessing the vehicles from inside.

Thanks to all.

Stuart

From: Ed Loach [mailto:edlo...@gmail.com]
Sent: 14 October 2014 5:19 PM
To: Stuart Reynolds; 'Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org'
Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Confused over access...

The more specific access tags take priority over the more general, so in your 
example access=no precludes all traffic, but bus=yes and psv=yes means buses 
and taxis are allowed.

See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access#Transport_mode_restrictions

I am surprised there is no foot=yes tag (or perhaps access=no should be 
motor_vehicle=no).

Ed

From: Stuart Reynolds [mailto:stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk]
Sent: 14 October 2014 17:02
To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] Confused over access...

Hi

Very quickly, if I have a road that is for bus/psv use, and is tagged like this:

Access=no
Bus=yes
Psv=yes

does that mean that buses are, or aren't, allowed to use it? Currently the bus 
lane around Preston Bus Station is coded this way, but my contractor isn't 
treating it as a bus lane, and before I go and  hassle the contractor I thought 
I would check my understanding. I got the impression that access=no took 
everything out.

Thanks.

Stuart

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email: stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk
mob: 07788 106165
skype: stuartjreynolds


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