[Talk-GB] Labelling a greasy spoon caff

2015-04-24 Thread Dan S
Hi all,

Any thoughts about tagging a greasy spoon cafe (a caff)? It's a
particular British type of food that we need to be able to locate
accurately ;)

In taginfo I see
  cuisine=breakfast (282)
  cuisine=british (73)
but both seem too vague to me. There are a handful of
  cuisine=greasy_spoon (4)
so I'll go with that unless there's anything better I've missed.

Also I've just learnt that the term greasy spoon is of US origin!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasy_spoon

Best
Dan

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Re: [Talk-GB] Labelling a greasy spoon caff

2015-04-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Greasy spoon truck stops (or any mobile food truck on a schedule) could
be:

 transient:amenity=restaurant
 cuisine=greasy_spoon;british
 operating_hours=Sa 16:00-20:00
 name=Greasy Spooning Cafe
 website=http://foodtrucksrus.net/o=92

So it won't render confusingly with permanently located features.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Labelling a greasy spoon caff

2015-04-24 Thread Lester Caine
On 24/04/15 18:28, Dan S wrote:
 Any thoughts about tagging a greasy spoon cafe (a caff)? It's a
 particular British type of food that we need to be able to locate
 accurately ;)
 
 In taginfo I see
   cuisine=breakfast (282)
   cuisine=british (73)
 but both seem too vague to me. There are a handful of
   cuisine=greasy_spoon (4)
 so I'll go with that unless there's anything better I've missed.

Interestingly all three of them have additional entries with upper case
first letters!

It surprises me that there are not more 'transport_cafe' references
given the number of greasy spoon truck stops, but you are right that
there does not seem to be anything actually documented for this type of
establishment.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Labelling a greasy spoon caff

2015-04-24 Thread Lester Caine
On 24/04/15 20:13, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
 Greasy spoon truck stops (or any mobile food truck on a schedule)
 could be:
 
  transient:amenity=restaurant
  cuisine=greasy_spoon;british
  operating_hours=Sa 16:00-20:00
  name=Greasy Spooning Cafe
  website=http://foodtrucksrus.net/o=92
 
 So it won't render confusingly with permanently located features.

Mobile catering is NOT the sort of greasy_spoon we are talking about.
These are sit down cafes serving mainly a full English greasy breakfast.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Labelling a greasy spoon caff

2015-04-24 Thread Dan S
2015-04-24 20:22 GMT+01:00 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk:
 On 24/04/15 20:13, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
 Greasy spoon truck stops (or any mobile food truck on a schedule)
 could be:

  transient:amenity=restaurant
  cuisine=greasy_spoon;british
  operating_hours=Sa 16:00-20:00
  name=Greasy Spooning Cafe
  website=http://foodtrucksrus.net/o=92

 So it won't render confusingly with permanently located features.

 Mobile catering is NOT the sort of greasy_spoon we are talking about.
 These are sit down cafes serving mainly a full English greasy breakfast.

Yep, my question was not about transient/mobile catering - but then I
think Bryce was just responding to Jerry on that point, I don't think
he was misunderstanding.

It's about a specific style of cuisine / eatery, and actually most of
the ones I've been to in my life haven't been on transport routes,
just sit-down cafes in non-posh parts of town. The one I was in this
morning was a caff in mid-London, full of building workers ordering
extremely large fried breakfasts.

I'm not keen on cuisine=breakfast because (a) it's not just any
breakfast, it's a very specific type of breakfast; (b) these places
usually serve lunch as well, and maybe even tea! I guess I might end
up going with cuisine=greasy_spoon - but since there were only 4 uses
so far, I suspected there was something I was missing. Also it felt a
bit too colloquial, but then it's pretty much the only word I have for
that style of cuisine.

Best
Dan

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