[Talk-GB] Next UK chapter concall

2016-01-25 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi everyone

Don't forget this is scheduled for 8pm Wed this week 27 January

0800 22 90 900  Pass code 33224

We'll pick up on Rob's summary email i.e objectives;legal stucture;
constitution

If we can I'd like to start discussing:

Name (not what it will be - but a mechanism for choosing one)
Membership classes, rights and costs

On objectives:the ensuing silence since draft 2 I'm not sure to take as
indifference or approval, but let's use the text as a starting point:

1.To increase the size, skills, toolsets and cohesion of the OpenStreetMap
community in the UK.

2.To promote and facilitate the use of OpenStreetMap data by organisations
in the UK.
3.To promote and facilitate the release by organisations in the UK of
OpenData  that is suitable for use in OpenStreetMap.

On legal structures, please read Rob's excellent summary before the
concall. I've read it and my conclusion so far, and I'm still not clear on
some things, is that we shouldn't go for unincorporated society (unlimited
liablity for officers) or charity (we don't have a charitable purpose and
the legal strictures are a bit more complex than we'd want). From the rest
I think company limited by guarantee (that's what OSMF chose) suits us
best. Not sure yet whether CIO or CIC, given that we'd be non-profit, are
worth considering.

Look forward to "seeing" you Wed

Regards

Brian
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Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] OSM with Wikidata: 27232 matches found in England

2016-01-25 Thread Edward Betts
Dan S  wrote:
> I'm curious how The Shard ended up matching against its correct match
> but also London Bridge station? The station doesn't seem to have any
> matching metadata:
> http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/england/region/Greater_London/Apartment_buildings

The criteria for an apartment building is just anything tagged as a building
or landuse=residential

The Shard has an alias of 'London Bridge tower', my software trims these
endings from apartment building names to find more matches: house, apartments,
estate, and tower.

I might add 'building=train_station' as an exclusion for the apartment
building matching.

The matcher will be changed to say if there is an OSM object who's name
matches without trimming names, then it takes priority.

> I managed to find a few erroneous one-to-one matches in London:
> Q12048395 — The Queen's Walk (South Bank) — HMS Belfast (way, distance: 5.0 
> km)
> Q55019 — Covent Garden — Royal Opera House (way, distance: 71 m)
> Q607700 — Monument to the Great Fire of London — Tower Bridge (node,
> distance: 1.4 km)
> Q5571009 — Globe Theatre (Newcastle Street) — Shakespeare's Globe
> (relation, distance: 2.5 km)
>   - note that this one confuses the historic with the modern
> theatre of the same name. The modern one has a separate wkp page.
> Q43279 — Wembley Stadium (1923) — Wembley Stadium (way, distance: 0 m)
>   - again the correct connection should be with the modern stadium
> Q3527632 — Dorset Garden Theatre — Queen's (way, distance: 2.8 km)
>   - another historic thing (Dorset Garden was called Queen's at one point)

Thanks I'll investigate these. I'm going to add more debugging to the output,
so we can see the names that matched.

-- 
Edward.

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Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] OSM with Wikidata: 27232 matches found in England

2016-01-25 Thread Neil Matthews

I had a look at your Bristol matches -- most are reasonable, a few issues:

Q5015771 — Cabot Circus — Cabot Circus (way, distance: 165 m) building=yes
Matched to parking not the shopping area -- OSM updated, was a 
suburb place


University of Bristol
one of three matches is to operator UWE Bristol -- OSM updated 
should be UWE


Stoke Park
should probably match to Stoke Park Estate -- remove duplicating 
node from OSM


Brislington West (ward)
matched to Saint Annes -- probably needs checking further?

Cheers,
Neil

P.S. Might be fun to see the items for Bristol that couldn't be matched :-)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Next UK chapter concall

2016-01-25 Thread Dudley Ibbett
Hi Brian

I think we should have "ordinary" members with full voting rights.  Another 
class of membership should be for "organisations".  They should be required to 
nominate an individual to represent them.  Their voting rights should be 
limited so they cannot vote for committee membership or stand on the committee.

At this time I would also suggest we set a minimum age for any type of 
membership to 18. I believe this would simplify issues when it come to 
complying with child protection legislation.

Apart form the initial cost of setting up any organisation.  I would guess the 
main annual cost will be insurance and auditor fees for the accounts.  This 
assumes that we won't be paying the committee expenses!   I'm aware of a couple 
of organisations that seem to do this for an annual fee of £25-£35 for ordinary 
membership.  Any "organisation" type of membership would need to be excluded 
from the insurance unless we got down an affiliate model along the lines of 
mountaineering clubs that affiliate to the BMC for example.

Kind Regards

Dudley




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> On 25 Jan 2016, at 18:36, Brian Prangle  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone
> 
> Don't forget this is scheduled for 8pm Wed this week 27 January
> 
> 0800 22 90 900  Pass code 33224
> 
> We'll pick up on Rob's summary email i.e objectives;legal stucture; 
> constitution
> 
> If we can I'd like to start discussing:
> 
> Name (not what it will be - but a mechanism for choosing one)
> Membership classes, rights and costs
> 
> On objectives:the ensuing silence since draft 2 I'm not sure to take as 
> indifference or approval, but let's use the text as a starting point:
> 
> 1.To increase the size, skills, toolsets and cohesion of the OpenStreetMap 
> community in the UK.
> 
> 2.To promote and facilitate the use of OpenStreetMap data by organisations in 
> the UK.
> 
> 3.To promote and facilitate the release by organisations in the UK of 
> OpenData  that is suitable for use in OpenStreetMap.
> 
> On legal structures, please read Rob's excellent summary before the concall. 
> I've read it and my conclusion so far, and I'm still not clear on some 
> things, is that we shouldn't go for unincorporated society (unlimited 
> liablity for officers) or charity (we don't have a charitable purpose and the 
> legal strictures are a bit more complex than we'd want). From the rest I 
> think company limited by guarantee (that's what OSMF chose) suits us best. 
> Not sure yet whether CIO or CIC, given that we'd be non-profit, are worth 
> considering.
> 
> Look forward to "seeing" you Wed
> 
> Regards
> 
> Brian
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