Re: [Talk-GB] Schools Project

[Christian Ledermann]

I implemented most of the improvement suggestions I received so far:

* clearer message that something is added to OSM
* display all osm features not just polygons
* import log which prevents double adding and gives feedback to the user
* no import of blank values





On 3 June 2016 at 09:46, Christian Ledermann
 wrote:
> On 3 June 2016 at 09:02, Ed Loach  wrote:
>> Christian asked:
>>
>>> As schools.mapthe.uk is an import project to osm:
>>>
>>>  Does the community `buy in` to this approach?
>>>  Can I go forward to contacting osm imports?
>>>  What would you like to see as improvements?
>>>
>>> As usual silence counts as approval ;-)
>>
>> I missed earlier emails on this subject but have had a quick play now. 
>> Instructions seem very lacking. Why do I get the option to add an OS 
>> OpenData polygon when the school is already mapped? That is likely to lead 
>> to duplication.
>>
>
> I will add as Gregory sugested:
> "The highlighted polygon will be ADDED to OpenStreetMap. If a school
> outline is already shown on the base map behind, then you should
> manually add the tags (& edubase reference manually) to that object."
>
> If there is anything you want to add to the documentation/input form
> your input is very appreciated :-)
>
>> Or is it just because I'm seeing live tiles but we’re using api06 data for 
>> comparison?
>>
>> When I clicked Add to OSM nothing seemed to happen, so I tried again. So I 
>> added it twice:
>> http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/changeset/85444
>> http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/changeset/85445
>>
>
> Yes good point. I think what is needed is to record which features
> have been add with this tool and if a feature has been added disable
> the 'add to osm' button.
>
>
>> Why is it adding a simple closed way as a multipolygon relation? Why not put 
>> the tags on the way?
>
> Some schools have school grounds that are on either side of a road.
> In this case a multipolygon is needed.
>
>
> If I interpreted
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon and
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Area/The_Future_of_Areas
> right, a multipolygon is the prefered way of adding an area
>
>> In the example changesets above, it is adding the website key with a blank 
>> value. I'm not sure blank values need adding.
>>
>
> In the future blank values will be omitted.
>
>> The changesets could probably use "source" tags to show where the data has 
>> been added from.
>
> source would be edubase/seed+os-open ?
>
>> When I clicked on "Add to OSM" I thought it might both add the multipolygon 
>> and open my default editor to allow me to trace buildings within the 
>> polygon, and any other details visible from Bing. Is this possible?
>
> It should be possible to open a new tab/window to edit osm in the
> browser - josm is another beast
>
>>
>> Ed
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Christian Ledermann
>
> Newark-on-Trent - UK
> Mobile : +44 7474997517
>
> https://uk.linkedin.com/in/christianledermann
> https://github.com/cleder/
>
>
> <*)))>{
>
> If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
> you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
> you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
>
> 1) Don’t drive species to extinction
>
> 2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
>
> 3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
>
> }<(((*>



-- 
Best Regards,

Christian Ledermann

Newark-on-Trent - UK
Mobile : +44 7474997517

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/christianledermann
https://github.com/cleder/


<*)))>{

If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.

1) Don’t drive species to extinction

2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.

3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.

}<(((*>

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[Talk-GB] WeeklyOSM 306

[Jinal Foflia]

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue #306, is now available online in
English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
OpenStreetMap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/7593

*Among others:*


   - Love Mapillary? Read in more for detailed article about using
   Mapillary for mapping in OpenStreetMap with JOSM.
   - Mapbox announces that their map related tools are now free for
   humanitarian response.
   - The State of the Map Working Group (WG SotM) published a paper to the
   topic corporate membership. Source: OSMF-talk
   - Rome based architect and designer Mateo Prati showcases his 3D views
   of Manhattan made with Blender and OpenStreetMap data.
   - Try out the knife-tool for JOSM, which makes splitting ways at an
   arbitrary point a breeze.


Cheers,

Jinal Foflia 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Schools Project

[Christian Ledermann]

On 3 June 2016 at 09:02, Ed Loach  wrote:
> Christian asked:
>
>> As schools.mapthe.uk is an import project to osm:
>>
>>  Does the community `buy in` to this approach?
>>  Can I go forward to contacting osm imports?
>>  What would you like to see as improvements?
>>
>> As usual silence counts as approval ;-)
>
> I missed earlier emails on this subject but have had a quick play now. 
> Instructions seem very lacking. Why do I get the option to add an OS OpenData 
> polygon when the school is already mapped? That is likely to lead to 
> duplication.
>

I will add as Gregory sugested:
"The highlighted polygon will be ADDED to OpenStreetMap. If a school
outline is already shown on the base map behind, then you should
manually add the tags (& edubase reference manually) to that object."

If there is anything you want to add to the documentation/input form
your input is very appreciated :-)

> Or is it just because I'm seeing live tiles but we’re using api06 data for 
> comparison?
>
> When I clicked Add to OSM nothing seemed to happen, so I tried again. So I 
> added it twice:
> http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/changeset/85444
> http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/changeset/85445
>

Yes good point. I think what is needed is to record which features
have been add with this tool and if a feature has been added disable
the 'add to osm' button.


> Why is it adding a simple closed way as a multipolygon relation? Why not put 
> the tags on the way?

Some schools have school grounds that are on either side of a road.
In this case a multipolygon is needed.


If I interpreted
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon and
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Area/The_Future_of_Areas
right, a multipolygon is the prefered way of adding an area

> In the example changesets above, it is adding the website key with a blank 
> value. I'm not sure blank values need adding.
>

In the future blank values will be omitted.

> The changesets could probably use "source" tags to show where the data has 
> been added from.

source would be edubase/seed+os-open ?

> When I clicked on "Add to OSM" I thought it might both add the multipolygon 
> and open my default editor to allow me to trace buildings within the polygon, 
> and any other details visible from Bing. Is this possible?

It should be possible to open a new tab/window to edit osm in the
browser - josm is another beast

>
> Ed
>



-- 
Best Regards,

Christian Ledermann

Newark-on-Trent - UK
Mobile : +44 7474997517

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/christianledermann
https://github.com/cleder/


<*)))>{

If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.

1) Don’t drive species to extinction

2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.

3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.

}<(((*>

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Re: [Talk-GB] Schools Project

[Ed Loach]

Christian asked:

> As schools.mapthe.uk is an import project to osm:
> 
>  Does the community `buy in` to this approach?
>  Can I go forward to contacting osm imports?
>  What would you like to see as improvements?
> 
> As usual silence counts as approval ;-)

I missed earlier emails on this subject but have had a quick play now. 
Instructions seem very lacking. Why do I get the option to add an OS OpenData 
polygon when the school is already mapped? That is likely to lead to 
duplication. 

Or is it just because I'm seeing live tiles but we’re using api06 data for 
comparison?

When I clicked Add to OSM nothing seemed to happen, so I tried again. So I 
added it twice:
http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/changeset/85444
http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/changeset/85445

Why is it adding a simple closed way as a multipolygon relation? Why not put 
the tags on the way?

In the example changesets above, it is adding the website key with a blank 
value. I'm not sure blank values need adding.

The changesets could probably use "source" tags to show where the data has been 
added from.

When I clicked on "Add to OSM" I thought it might both add the multipolygon and 
open my default editor to allow me to trace buildings within the polygon, and 
any other details visible from Bing. Is this possible?

Ed


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